Confession Transcript

Read George Allen's complete 1982 police interrogation

The following statement is in reference to the Mary Bell incident that occurred on February 4th, 1982, at 1018 Marion. The statement -- this statement is being taken in the Homicide Office Interview Room No. 1 and the date is March the 14th, 1982 and the time is approximately one forty-seven p.m. My name is Detective Sergeant Herb Riley assigned to Homicide and to my left is, ah, Officer Terry James assigned to District 3. Ah, the gentleman in the room here with us is a man who may or may not have information relative to this incident. Ah, what is your name, please?

A. George Allen, Jr.

Q. Now, speak up just a little, George.

A. George Allen, Jr.

Q. And you are a negro male?

A. Right.

Q. And how old are you?

A. Twenty-six.

Q. And your date of birth?

A. 3/5/56.

Q. And what is your home address?

A. 7155 Willow Tree Lane.

Q. Willow Tree Lane? And where is that located at?

A. University City, Missouri.

Q. And you got a telephone out there?

A. Yes.

Q. What -- what is the phone number?

A. 721-1398.

Q. Okay. Now, George before I talk to you, which we do with everyone, we advise of their constitutional rights. I'll read you your constitutional rights.

They are that you have the right to remain silent. Do you understand that?

A. I understand.

Q. Okay. Anything you say can be used against you in court, you understand that?

A. Yeah, I understand.

Q. Okay, you have the right to a lawyer and to have him with you while you are being questioned. You understand that?

A. Yeah, I understand.

Q. Okay. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer one'll be appointed for you before any questioning, if you so desire. Do you understand that?

A. Yeah, I understand.

Q. Do you understand these constitutional rights?

A. I understand the rights.

Q. Okay. And a while ago when -- when we were talkin' about this incident, I showed you some pictures of an apartment complex; the pictures as they lay right in front of you, and I asked you if you had ever been down to these apartments, ah, particularly, ah, in February when we had the deep snow. And you looked at the pictures and was you down in that area?

A. Yeah, I was down there.

Q. Okay. You remember if it was in the morning or the afternoon? Can you remember?

A. It was late -- late at night.

Q. You sure of that?

A. I'm sure.

Q. Positive? Was it daylight or dark?

A. Around dusk. Around just before dark.

Q. You sure of that now?

A. Right.

Q. You're not mistaken about the time of day?

A. I don't think so. I mean, no, I'm not mistaken.

Q. Okay. Do you remember when you were down in that area?

A. I remember.

Q. Okay. I showed you some pictures of some doors, different colored doors and I'll show you again the pictures of the doors and a wooden deck and steps, you see that there?

A. Yeah, I see it.

Q. Okay. He is currently being shown a photograph of the deck and steps leading to, ah, Mary Bell's apartment. Had you ever been up on that deck and in fact, had you ever knocked on that particular door?

A. Yeah, I did.

Q. Okay. Do you remember talkin' to anybody? Did anyone answer the door?

A. Yeah, she answered the door.

Q. She? Who is she?

A. A lady.

Q. And what did she look like as you remember her?

A. Ah, I guess white.

Q. She was white?

A. True. Dark hair, I guess.

Q. Did she look -- what did she look like?

A. Ah, she around twenty -- twenty-five.

Q. All right. When -- when I asked you what she looked like, George, I mean was she an attractive woman, or ah --

A. Yeah, she was attractive.

Q. Did she have a nice body on her?

A. Yeah.

Q. Huh? You remember how she was dressed at that time?

A. Uh, I think she had on a nightgown.

Q. She had a nightgown on?

A. Think so.

Q. You don't remember what color it was?

A. I think it was white.

Q. Okay. Looked kind of light colored?

A. Right.

Q. Okay. What did you say to her when she answered the door?

A. I say, "Can I come in and get warm for a few minutes?"

Q. And what'd she say?

A. (No response).

Q. Not that you ever -- should remember the exact words unless you do.

A. Ah, I think she says she don't usually let men in the house, ah, that she didn't know.

Q. Okay. So you -- you didn't really know her, did you?

A. No, I didn't know her.

Q. And what -- did she let you in there?

A. No, I don't think so. I think I forced my way in.

Q. Well, then what happened?

A. Ah, we started to wrastlin'.

Q. I mean, do you remember when you went in the door, did you go up some steps or what happened? Ah, you remember?

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