Jersey Boys writer Marshall Brickman is no career counselor— but he's a great interview

Marshall Brickman should be an inspiration to everyone who has never been able to hold a job. Brickman is the ultimate freelancer: He has had all kinds of jobs — comedy writer, screenwriter, director — but never for long. He's always moving on to something new. "I never tire of telling my kids that my life is no example of how to plan a career," he says. "My life has been like trying to cross a river by jumping from stone to stone." Brickman landed feet first on the latest rock two years ago when, at age 62, he co-wrote the book for his first Broadway musical.

Jersey Boys, which tells the story of 1950s rock & rollers Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons, was the surprise hit of the season. The show is still going strong on Broadway; this week the national company begins a four-week run at the Fox Theatre.

"I am not an avid theatergoer," Brickman admits as he acknowledges the improbability of the entire experience. "I don't go to see every new Sondheim musical that comes down the pike. When my writing partner, Rick Elice, showed up with this project, I was waiting for a movie to go into production. Initially I resisted working on Jersey Boys. I'm a red-diaper baby. My parents were progressive. When I was a little kid, Paul Robeson sang in my living room. The Four Seasons were not high on my list of music that I grew up to. It was Pete Seeger and the Weavers and Woody Guthrie. When all the people who are now coming to our show were in the back seats of their convertibles making out to 'Can't Take My Eyes Off You,' I was singing 'We Shall Overcome.'

"But the movie was stalled, so I said, 'We'll write it on the weekends. It'll never get done anyway, because only one out of a thousand projects goes to Broadway.' So the musical happened because the movie fell through. That's the show-business ecology: Something dies on one side of the pond so that something else on the other side can live."

Once the writing started, Brickman learned fast: "Rick and I would be pacing back and forth improvising. I'd say, 'Then we cut to—,' and he'd say, 'Excuse me. This is the theater. You don't cut to anything.' The legendary movie director Stanley Donen [Singin' in the Rain, Funny Face, Damn Yankees!] is a friend. Stanley once told me that you can learn technically just about everything you need to know about directing a film in two weeks if someone who knows it teaches you. It's not a secret. The secret is who you are and what your values are and how you can get those across. I don't denigrate the value of experience. But you can get a lot of people to support you during the process.

"I had an enormous amount of help on Jersey Boys," he continues. "Des McAnuff, our director, is very skillful. I learned a lot from him about how to keep it moving. Which is not to denigrate my own contribution, which is sensibility and the dialogue and the joke. A laugh in the theater is not a superficial thing. If you can get 1,500 people to all laugh at the same time about the same thing, then you've extracted some kind of basic truth about whatever it is that the laugh is."

Brickman was born in Rio de Janeiro but has lived most of his life in New York City. He attended the University of Wisconsin as a physics major but graduated with a degree in music. ("I switched because I already knew music, so I didn't have to study anything.") After a gig as a folk singer, he moved into television. His first job was as a writer/director for Candid Camera. "That was really the first reality show," he says. "It was the first show to put a lot of stock in the entertainment value of humiliation. The stuff that made it to air was palatable. But to see what some people were willing to undergo in order to get on television was sobering and eye-opening."