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Rinoaloveme 01/14/2012 1:38:00 AM
Animal rights, also known as animal liberation, is the idea that the most basic interests of non-human animals should be afforded the same consideration as the similar interests of human beings. Advocates approach the issue from different philosophical positions, ranging from the protectionist side of the movement, presented by philosopher Peter Singer—with a utilitarian focus on suffering and consequences, rather than on the concept of rights—to the abolitionist side, represented by law professor Gary Francione, who argues that animals need only one right: the right not to be property. Despite the different approaches, advocates broadly agree that animals should be viewed as non-human persons and members of the moral community, and should not be used as food, clothing, research subjects, or entertainment.
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01/11/2012 6:50:00 PM
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01/02/2012 11:00:00 PM
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skippy 11/09/2010 5:01:00 AM
Heres a projection that HSUS wants for the United States. In ten years there will be no dogs except for show dog breeders liters. Show dog breeders dont sell to the public. The United States Olympic Equestrian Team will be closed down from lies told by the HSUS. Animal scientific research will be closed down causing all human medical research to stop. No Vaccines, no cancer treatments no heart treatments. Food shortages in all 50 states. HSUS has passed laws in two states to stop food production, they make it to expensive to continue. Farmers will be forming groups to decide who to feed and who to let starve. My message to HSUS you better learn how to grow your own food as farmers wont be feeding you.
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Anon 09/28/2010 4:50:00 AM
I'm shocked! You mean the Humane Society is promoting an agenda condemning the LIFELONG raising of animals in confinement? What were they thinking? Why, I'm sure animals LOVE living their entire lives confined to pens or feed lots. Wouldn't you? (please forgive the sarcasm, but for god's sake!)
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Donna 05/01/2010 8:39:00 PM
we made them (PETA & HSUS) the powers they are today thru donating our hard earned monies with the thought of helping dogs in need. They both hold a tax exempt status (needs to e removed) Peta helps dogs with their donated money by euthanizing them (putting them to sleep forever) i cite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvpL2vh3rrg
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQlJrgZwOk&feature=related
83% KILL RATE where a non PETA shelter in the same city HOMED 75%
whats wrong with this picture???
HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES for Most people viewing the puppies in cages on their tv they think HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES may be the head of all humane societies in the united states. So they reach deep in their pockets to help the puppies. If they knew that HSUS was merely a law creating group maybe they woulnt have. PETA has openly stated that what they stand for I cite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYvSzsgolVY&feature=related. so in their world, no more zoo's no more circus's, no more dog shows, no more valuale testing to save human lives. and everyone is tofu munching vegans. They are after the bully breeds right now and are trying to wipe the breeds out of existance. Do you think they will stop there?
Wake up america before you yourself are no longer allowed to own a dog, because this is in fact their real goal.
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Susie IBoutonnet 04/30/2010 10:36:00 PM
So refreshing to see someone who is standing up to HSUSA and their tyrannical tactics -- someone who cares that there will be 9 billion to feed by 2050, and science must be part of the solution!
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grandma58 04/29/2010 8:41:00 AM
My response is to Sustainfood. I ask you "have you visited all the CAFOs in this country"? I know you haven't because I've not met you. Our CAFO is owned by three co-owners (and yes the workers) who have all grown up on a farm and been farmers for a total of 131 years among us. We take pride in making sure everything is operating to the highest function and providng individauls with some of the best meat you've tasted. Who are you that you can declare that we aren't farmers along with many of the other fine folks around us that operate CAFO's. Quite frankly I am getting tired of defending a way of life that is feeding you Sustainfood along with the other misinformed.
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Sustainfood 04/28/2010 3:49:00 AM
You are delusional if you think there's nothing wrong with the way CAFOs operate in this country and increasingly around the world. This has nothing to do with whether you eat meat or not. The conditions for both animals and workers in these facilities (not to mention the slaughterhouses) are so despicable that even the corporate execs and so called 'farmers' (CAFOs is not farming, people) won't let cameras inside. Why would that be if it were all on the up and up? I hope anyone defending this system falls to the same fate as the animals and workers ensnared in this horrific system.
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jim 04/19/2010 9:52:00 PM
Why don't they help people, like give the money to the Salvation Army are some group that help out the poor people with no jobs and kids to feed. That's what wrong with the rich in this country. They just don't get it
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Ronda Brooks 04/18/2010 1:02:00 AM
HSUS pushing vegan dog food. But sure the farmers are just being paranoid!
Feb 16 2010
Is Vegan Kibble a Form of Animal Cruelty?
If you haven't heard yet, the Humane Society of the United States has started marketing its own private-label vegan dry dog food, called "Humane Choice."
"Vegan" and "dog food" go together like "ketchup" and "chocolate pudding." Yes, like lots of other writers, I'm really not sure where to begin with this horrible, horrible idea.
Let's see ...
Dogs are not vegetarians. Ever heard of canine teeth? Yeah, those flesh-ripping pointy things in your dog's mouth. Not for tofu.
I've spoken to three different veterinarians in the last 24 hours (not counting the two vets I'm related to). They all tell me that they would never recommend this product to anyone because animal protein is simply a better option for dogs than soy protein. (Feel free to weigh in if you disagree.)
The whole thing reminds me of the family in the short-lived animated TV show The Goode Family. They keep their pet, a perpetually hungry dog named "Che" (of course...), on a vegan diet. And as a result of his forced meatless eating, little Che sees visions of drumsticks and hot dogs everywhere. Including every time he looks at the other neighborhood dogs.
Then there's the sourcing issue. HSUS is paying a company in Uruguay to make this dog food. And then shipping it more than 5,000 miles to the United States. Why?
The manufacturer states that the formula was approved by Uruguay's "MGAP" (the Ministry of Livestock, Agriculture and Fisheries). Personally, I'm not comforted by that. Why wasn't the U.S. Department of Agriculture asked for its approval? (Or maybe it was.)
And the back of the bag has a smiling picture of Wayne Pacelle on it. (Really, Wayne? Who does that? Is that supposed to make the dogs hungry?)
Oh, yes. I do have a bag of this dog food. It arrived yesterday.
I first heard about this product back on October 29, when Pacelle told a Los Angeles “town hall” meeting that it was on the way. And he was right. The bag I ordered a few weeks ago was stamped with a manufacture date from last August. (Is that normal? Anyone in the dog food distribution world, please weigh in.)
Aside from the veterinary nutrition-related question marks, I'm mostly concerned about the safety of feeding this product to anyone's pet. It was made 5,000 miles away, after all, and our own government's food-safety authorities haven't certified anything about it. Only that it's organic, which is really just a marketing tool. (So sayeth the USDA.)
I think it may be time to organize a "Humane Choice Challenge" to see if real dogs will actually eat this stuff. Something tells me that "organic ground canola seed" just won't get the saliva flowing like the smell of bacon.
Stay tuned.
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Ronda Brooks 04/18/2010 12:52:00 AM
Poll: 7 of 10 Wrongly Believe HSUS is a Pet Shelter Umbrella Group
Posted by carson4575 on March 2, 2010
Seventy-one percent of Americans questioned in a new opinion poll wrongly believe the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is an “umbrella group” for America’s local humane societies. Sixty-three percent incorrectly think their local “humane society” is affiliated with HSUS. And fifty-nine percent falsely believe HSUS “contributes most of its money” to local organizations that care for cats and dogs.
The poll, which sampled the opinions of 1,008 Americans, was commissioned by the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) and conducted by Opinion Research Corporation (ORC) of Princeton, New Jersey.
“These numbers indicate that Americans don’t really know what the Humane Society of the United States is all about,” said CCF Director of Research David Martosko. “HSUS intentionally uses those sad dogs and cats in its TV infomercials as props in an animal rights fundraising shell game. Meanwhile, thousands of American pet shelters are underfunded and struggling.” Martosko blogs about HSUS at www.HumaneWatch.org.
According to the federal income tax return filed by HSUS for the tax year 2008, less than one-half of one percent (0.5%) of the organization’s budget consisted of grants to hands-on pet shelters. HSUS does not run a single shelter for dogs or cats anywhere, and it is not affiliated with any local “humane society” organizations.
Martosko continued: “This poll indicates that most Americans think HSUS is a worthy charity. But very few Americans understand what HSUS really is—a super-rich lobbying group that puts more money into its executive pensions than in the hands of local humane societies.”
Survey Methodology
The survey of 1,008 adults nationwide was conducted by telephone between February 25 and February 28, 2010 by Opinion Research Corporation. The margin of error is plus or minus three percentage points.
Questions:
I’m going to read you the names of several nonprofit organizations. For each one, please tell me if you are very familiar, somewhat familiar or totally unfamiliar with the organization.
The Humane Society of the United States ……………………………… 79% familiar (“very”/“somewhat” net)
I’m going to read you several statements. For each one, please tell me if you think the statement is true or false.
71% “TRUE”: The Humane Society of the United States is an umbrella group that represents thousands of local humane societies all across America
63% “TRUE”: My local humane society or pet shelter is AFFILIATED with the Humane Society of the United States.
59% “TRUE”: The Humane Society of the United States contributes most of its money to local organizations that care for dogs and cats.
48% “TRUE”: My local humane society or pet shelter receives financial support from the Humane Society of the United States.
(Tax records filed by HSUS show that all four statements are false.)
To learn more about the Humane Society of the United States, visit www.HumaneWatch.org. To arrange an interview, call Allison Miller at 202-463-7112.
The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit watchdog organization that informs the public about the activities of tax-exempt activist groups. It is supported by American consumers, business organizations, and foundations
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Ronda Brooks 04/18/2010 12:49:00 AM
Are you all aware that the HSUS is up on racketeering charges?? It seems they paid one of their "under cover" witnesses $190,000 to testify. You see the judge saw this as inadmisable. Surprise, surprise! Could it be that many of the HSUS "under cover" witnesses are part of the problem in the first place? If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, it is usualy a rat!
Are you all aware that the HSUS is being investigated by the IRS for operating out side of their "non-profit" status?
Are you aware that most charity watch dog groups rate the HSUS very low??
Please study the matter before you sign anything!
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Ronda Brooks 04/18/2010 12:39:00 AM
HSUS and ASPCA working together in Missouri
January 7, 2010 by Cyndi Young
Filed under AgriNews Column, Feature Programs, Two Cents
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The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) ballot initiative placing numerous restrictions on dog breeders in Missouri has been approved for circulation by the Missouri Secretary of State’s office. The proposal, among other restrictions, would limit operators to 50 or fewer female breeding dogs and set specific area and air temperature requirements for indoor housing and constant unfettered access to an outdoor exercise area that meets certain specifications.
Just under 100,000 certified signatures are needed by May 2, 2010 on the so-called “Puppy Mill Cruelty Protection Act” proposal to get it on the ballot for Missouri voters next November. A group called Missouri for the Protection of Dogs – supported by HSUS and the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) is collecting signatures.
There are so many things wrong with this situation that I don’t know where to begin and I certainly do not have the time or space in this column to include all of the questions I have, so here are a few:
Isn’t it a violation of the constitution to interfere in a person’s right to run a business, specifically forbidding an American citizen ownership of a set amount of legal property? Would you tell a shoe store owner that he can only own 50 pairs of shoes in his store at a time?
What happens to the economy of Missouri when the $2 billion the pet industry brings into the state disappears?
Why is it acceptable for an animal rights organization to propose standards for the care of animals when this organization does not own or operate a single animal shelter or pet adoption facility? How practical is that?
What will you do when an HSUS proposal becomes law in your state and the government comes for your 51st cow, pig or goat?
Get back to me on that, will you?
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Ronda Brooks 04/18/2010 12:23:00 AM
For the new comers to the issue please take not when the AR crowd tries to prove their point they direct you to the HSUS website. A bit bias perhaps. Daily blogs written by their favorite vegan Wayne. We have proven from the HSUS's own words what their true intentions are. But in case anybody missed it I will repost it below. Since the ag community has caught on to the HSUS Mr. Wayne Pacelle has taken the route of oh they are just paranoid. Study the 120 pieces of legislation they have out this year. It is not paranoia if they are really out to get you. Wayne and his staff believe someone with no experience or education should have a say in how animal agriculture is performed. This would be though crazy in any other area. Please research the HSUS before you support anything they do. Call your state elects. The majority are opposed to this because they know what they are up to and have showed them the door for years. That is why they have come in with the petition. The below article was written from a interview with HSUS exec's. No one can read that and not see they are out to end animal agriculture and how unmoral they will act to get it done. Call the 1-800 # on the HSUS commercials. Ask where you can volunteer? Ask about adopting a pet? You will get the run around!
HSUS – A Squeaky Wheel or a Doomsday Prophecy
Posted on December 9, 2009 15:50 by Matt Hardecke
As cattle producers, we are facing some tremendous challenges in our industry. One that I think is on top of the list is the mounting attacks from animal rights activist. I am involved with an agricultural leadership development program called ALOT (Agricultural Leaders of Tomorrow). This past February we spent a week in Washington D.C. During the week tour we had the opportunity to meet with the Human Society of the United States (HSUS) at their head quarters in DC. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity to “go into the belly of the beast” and ask anything we wanted. After a two hour conversation with the leaders of HSUS around their conference table, one theme stuck in my mind, HSUS will stop at nothing to completely abolish animal protein in the American diet, either by choice or legislation. That is it. The industries attempts to compromise to or adopt HSUS influences are only opening the door to their propaganda and activism. During our meeting, HSUS told us of their intentions to end animal protein as a dietary supplement in the human diet and I quote “we can produce just as good of a steak in a laboratory as you do on your farm; it just isn’t cost effect yet but it will be”
Recently the HSUS has been able to impose its will in states across the USA. With a lot of success and one set back, HSUS has now put its sites on the mid west. It is hard to believe that a rural state like Missouri would ever adopt such sweeping changes but as one HSUS representative said “all we have to do is show a few pictures and the public is on our side, the facts or irrelevant” Many cattlemen don’t understand how legislation changes in states like California, which animals in band crates, can affect cattlemen raising cattle on the open range. The issue isn’t about sow crates; it is about HSUS ability to manipulate public opinion. In DC, HSUS stated that their approach was a deliberate, consistent and determined strategy to change public opinion against animal agriculture. So how does the banning of sow crates affect a Missouri cattleman, it opens the door for the HSUS’s ultimate goal of taking your right to produce and consume beef away from you.
You say “Matt, I am only one person…how can I make a difference?” Your first action must be to become an active member of NCBA and your state and local Cattlemen’s association. By becoming a member you become soldier on the front line defense of our industry. NCBA will equip you to become an activist for the industry. NCBA offers you the opportunity to network with other industry professionals to share ideas and stories which will help in the fight to save our way of life. NCBA is a channel for your voice to be heard when it other wise would go unnoticed. After you have your arsenal full from the NCBA, I would start by presenting the facts to your family and close friends. A grass root effort starts by neighbor talking with neighbor and worker talking to coworker. You would be surprised to find out how many people at your church have no idea what you do for a living. HSUS’s current strategy is to use State ballot initiatives to shape Ag policy. This means that by influencing your circle of friends and family, their votes will add up to defeat the ballot initiatives.
Take people out to your farm and show them how no one cares more about the health and safety of animals than those who raise them. I would also start letting your public servants know how you feel. Our politicians need to know our story. Let them know how important Animal Agriculture is to our local economies and lively hoods. It is also important to recognize that this isn’t just a beef problem or a pork problem, this in an agriculture problem. Two thirds of all the corn grown in the USA is fed to animals, therefore, the corn farmer has just as much at stake in this fight as the animal protein producer, if only indirect. All sectors must rally as one voice to combat the extreme views of groups like the HSUS. Finally, start to tell your story. Animal Agriculture has a proud story to tell. We produce the safest most abundant source of protein the world has ever seen, all while providing the most humane and healthy animals as possible. So, tell your story!
In closing, NOW is the time to start. If HSUS isn’t in your state already, they will be. In DC, HSUS told us they would have a ballot initiative in Iowa next November. Yes the largest pork producing state will be considering banning its way of life. They have hundreds of millions of dollars behind them and probably as many Hollywood celebrities. This will be a true David and Goliath story. Unfortunately I think we are David but have faith, we are in the right, our intentions are true. It is time to stand up and let your voice be heard or else organizations like HSUS are going to silence it.
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Terrikal 04/18/2010 12:05:00 AM
April 16, 2010
Come to the Table
This week, reporter Kristen Hinman wrote a feature-length story for the St. Louis Riverfront Times about the tussle between The HSUS and Big Agribusiness over confinement issues and other factory farming practices. That publication is one holding of Village Voice media, and the piece was published in the chain of weeklies serving large cities throughout the country.
Matt Prescott/HSUS
The story included the standard overblown rhetoric from factory farmers, and even some non-factory farmers who have been misled by the typical scaremongering and are paranoid about the work of The HSUS. I’ve said it time and again: our campaigns are aimed at phasing out very specific practices that the vast majority of Americans oppose, such as confining animals in small cages barely larger than their bodies or mutilation procedures that cannot be considered medically necessary. One need only look at our ballot initiative campaigns or our undercover investigations at factory farms and slaughter plants to see that we focus on the excesses of agribusiness. We’ve always been open to sitting down and working on solutions with responsible members of the agriculture community, as we did in successful, industry-supported efforts to phase out certain confinement practices in Michigan and to ban the tail-docking of dairy cows in California.
Far from being doctrinaire, The HSUS brings a science-based and reasonable approach to these discussions. When agribusiness interests stonewall or demonize us, then we don’t just fold our tent. We consider the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms a matter of moral urgency, and if we cannot reach a compromise, then we will push ahead through accepted pathways, such as legislative initiatives, corporate campaigns, or public awareness efforts. The caricature of The HSUS as dogmatic and orthodox couldn't be further from reality, and our day-to-day work demonstrates that fact.
I was pleased to see a sidebar that ran in the Broward/Palm Beach and Miami editions that spoke about the first ballot initiative concerning factory farming practices we worked on in Florida in 2002. It focused on the confinement of breeding sows in gestation crates, and when voters approved it, it was the first restriction on a severe confinement practice in the U.S. Now, eight year later, it has achieved its principal purpose: it kept giant hog factory farms from colonizing Florida, as they did three decades ago in North Carolina. What’s more, small farms where the animals have access to pasture and are allowed to engage in basic behaviors have flourished, just as we had hoped.
In our latest issue of All Animals, The HSUS membership magazine, there’s a story about our work in Ohio, and our work with small farmers and with the neighbors of factory farms whose lives have been turned upside down because of the waste generated by these massive operations. We are there in Ohio to help them in their fight, after the Ohio Farm Bureau and other factory farming trade associations failed to enter into good-faith discussions. When any animal-use industry deals with The HSUS, you’ll find a group with a definite moral perspective, but one that balances the many competing considerations and that is always willing to talk and to find solutions.
Posted by Wayne Pacelle on 16 April 2010 at 5:10 PM in Humane Society at Work , News & Culture , The Movement & Beyond
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Terrikal 04/17/2010 11:26:00 PM
http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/
Read the article people!
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 7:25:00 PM
Mr. Goodwin is one of the HSUS executives that has brought the "puppy mill" petition to Mo. We do not need to allow the HSUS and their convicted criminal exec's to take control of animal agriculture in Mo. They pay for fancy commercials to mislead the public. Animal ag producers/breeders are not the criminals here! Please read on one of the HSUS's prized employee!
John 'J.P.' Goodwin
Biography
John “J.P.” Goodwin is the grassroots coordinator at the Humane Society of the United States, the world’s richest animal-rights organization. Goodwin, who previously co-founded the Texas-based Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, is clear about his intentions, writing in one Internet activist listserv: “My goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture.” He’s developed a lengthy arrest record in pursuit of that goal. He was arrested and convicted for being the ringleader of a crew that vandalized fur retailers in multiple states during the 1990s. The animal-rights watchdog newspaper Animal People News profiled Goodwin in 2000, noting that he “gleefully announced a string of Animal Liberation Front mink releases and arsons against furriers and fur farms” while a “spokesman” for the underground terrorist group.
Goodwin also handled the media after a Petaluma, California, slaughterhouse arson in February 1997. But he really shocked the public with his comments on the March 1997 arson at a farmer’s feed co-op in Utah. Referring to a fire that caused almost $1 million in damage and could easily have killed a family sleeping on the premises, Goodwin told the Deseret News, “We’re ecstatic.”
Background
Grassroots Coordinator, Humane Society of the United States; co-founder, Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade; former Animal Liberation Front member
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 6:19:00 PM
If you all want to get involved with Mo animal agriculture rather you be a consumer or producer please go to http://www.missourifac.com. All pet lovers and producers welcome. In Mo if you have a licensed pet facility you must indeed have a license through the Mo department of animal agriculture. More champion dogs come out of Mo than any other state in the US. My state rep shared that little tid bit with me! Please do not be fooled by the AR crowd. We are far from the first state to be nick named the "puppy mill capital." Just the latest on the AR hit list. Many other states targeted by the AR crowd were blessed with the name before us.
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 6:07:00 PM
Valerie! What we are seeing from you is typicly what we have been seeing from every vegetarian/vegan AR supporter. Heaven forbid we stand against the uneducated misrepresentations you all imply concerning animal agriculture. Let me just say we are so sick of you all calling us "animal haters" because we do not agree with your far out there beliefs that a ant has just as many "rights" as our children. YOu are the one who needs to grow up and live in the real world not this disney movie you have created in your mind. Yes indeed farmers love their animals more than you can ever imagine. News flash they would not do what they did if they did not. I watch my husband walk out amongst his cattle and scrath their heads and rub their backs. Yeah that is hate and abuse! You all do not realize the minute we get you all riled to the point you admit you are a vegan/vegetarian that 97% of the people reading suddenly see the light. Not your light, but the light we have been standing up and shinning on the situation. Concerning the post from the person who worked in a humane society. Thanks so much for sharing! I have no doubt what you say is true and why certain rescues/shelters are so pushing this "puppy mill" bill. You see under current Mo animal laws they are breaking the law. There are minimum daily exercise requirement. From your description they would be wrote up so fast it would make your head spin. YOu see this new law would leave them (rescues/shelters) free to do what ever they pleased with not state inspections required.
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 5:57:00 PM
An Open Letter to Mr. Wayne Pacelle, President and CEO of HSUS
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On Feb. 23, Congressman Zack Space, representing the people of Ohio's 18th District, submitted the following open letter to Wayne Pacelle, CEO of the Humane Society of the United States:
Dear Mr. Pacelle,
I was disappointed and troubled to hear of the recent decision by the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) to move forward with attempts to further their political agenda and force it on the people of Ohio. This news proves that clearly you and your organization have not been listening.
HSUS was obviously not listening when residents across the state of Ohio spoke in one voice – overwhelmingly supporting Issue 2 and ensuring that Ohioans regulate our own standards for animal care. HSUS was obviously not listening when a majority of Ohio’s federal and state delegation endorsed the Ohio Livestock Care Standards Board (OLCSB) – overwhelmingly denouncing the HSUS’ efforts to undermine it. And HSUS was obviously not listening when farmers across the state of Ohio weighed in on this disastrous policy – overwhelmingly opposing it.
In addition to a majority of Ohioans, Issue 2 also had great support among Ohio’s legislators, Governor Strickland, and groups representing animal interests, including The American Humane Association, and the Ohio Veterinary Medical Association. It is unconscionable to me that an outside group would come into our State and claim that they know better.
The OLCSB was created just four months ago with a strong mandate by the people of Ohio, and it would be wrong for it to be hijacked by overzealous special interests based out of Washington, D.C. Our board will ensure that livestock and animals in Ohio are treated humanely and that our agricultural producers – a major sector of Ohio’s economy – are not unfairly penalized with unacceptable regulations.
The experts that will make up the OLCSB are the best sources for determining Ohio’s minimum standards of care for our animals, and not a liberal group whose real intentions are less about animal care and more about control over what we in Ohio eat.
Your attempts to dictate our state policies regarding animal care are misguided, and I will not stand for them. Ohio’s standards of animal care should be determined by those who know the issue best and have a vested interest in the outcome – Ohioans.
I joined the farmers of my district to support the passage of Issue 2, which passed with almost 64% of the vote on November 3rd. Ohioans statewide have spoken. It is clear exactly where they stand on this issue.
Mr. Pacelle, Ohio has spoken. Why haven’t you been listening?
Sincerely,
Congressman Zack Space
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 5:55:00 PM
Is HSUS a threat to Missouri agriculture?
by Sami Jo Freeman, posted Dec. 3, 2009
The Humane Society of the United States filed a ballot intitative on Nov. 25 concerning puppy mills in Missouri. However, it is expected by industry leaders that HSUS will sponsor agricultural legislation in the state by at least 2011.
To understand where HSUS is headed, people in agriculture must first look at where they have been. In 2002, HSUS won its first big battle with agriculture in Florida by outlawing gestation crates for sows. Four years later, they did the same thing in Arizona and added the banning of veal crates. HSUS then found success in California with Proposition 2. The legislation just keeps adding up, and Michigan agriculture has been its latest victim.
HSUS has employed emotional and legislative tactics to find success. Some of those strategies are lobbying legislators, threatening lawsuits, pressuring agricultural groups, targeting children, using sources with scientific credentials, using social media effectively and publishing emotional undercover investigation videos.
Wayne Pacelle on Agritalk
On June 30, 2009, Mike Adams of Agritalk radio station questioned Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of HSUS since 2004. During the interview, Pacelle attempted to answer all of Adams’ questions, but still managed to dance around a few, according to David Martosko, research director for the Center for Consumer Freedom.
“Make no mistake, this guy is basically running an organization that is every bit as radical as PETA,” Martosko said. ”He’s just doing it in a starched suit.”
However, Pacelle continued to explain his philosophy about agriculture production. He said that gestation crates, veal crates and battery cages should be outlawed because they limit the natural behaviors of animals. Pacelle forgot to think about one aspect though, according to a Missouri poultry producer who also voiced his concerns on Agritalk.
“If we adapted to his practices, it would double or triple the mortality of our chickens,” the producer said. “The chickens will crowd together more densely in the non-caged system than the caged system allows, and we lose chickens from time to time when they pile up and suffocate under each other. What looks good to some people just in fact doesn’t work and is cruel and less humane for the chickens.”
Towards the end of the interview, I think Pacelle did get one thing right.
“We think farming is a noble profession and it’s important to recognize that we all need to eat,” Pacelle said. “We all need to consume food.“
Mike Adams, AgriTalk host, said there should be a commonality between HSUS and agricultural groups because we all want good care for our animals.
“There just ought to be common ground to work together,” Adams said.
Nevertheless, Pacelle continued to become defensive and make comments that offended listeners.
“I know that some of your listeners would love for us to just give our money to shelters so they could have a free running field to do whatever they want with animals in agriculture,” Pacelle said.
Yes, many producers would like HSUS to put money back into the local shelters, because their organization’s name is the Humane Society of the United States. Farmers would like for them to take their money out of the agriculture industry so that animals can get the best care from the people who care the most, producers. Someone who is not educated in or does not have a background in production agriculture should have a say in how livestock is cared for.
Current pursuits
It’s no secret that HSUS is putting big stakes in its current pursuit — Ohio. However, voters went to the polls earlier this month to put HSUS back on its heels by passing a Livestock Care Standards Board. This board will consist of agricultural leaders and local humane shelter representatives from across the state and will set stricter regulations for the production, transportation and slaughter of livestock in Ohio.
Recent developments do point to one fact: HSUS is growing stronger.
According to ActivistCash.com, HSUS had an end-of-year net worth of $111,021,299.00 in 2004. Since then, it’s been speculated that the group’s bank account has only grown larger.
Jeff Windett, executive vice president of the Missouri Cattlemen’s Association said that the HSUS budget has doubled since 2003 and their legal department has quadrupled to 50 lawyers since 2006. Very little of that money or manpower goes back to animal research or humane shelters.
“We’re not a research-oriented organization,” Pacelle said. “We don’t fund research. We don’t fund every local humane society.”
What Missouri plans to do
Missouri does not plan to sit back and wait for HSUS to make a move on this issue. State agricultural groups have come together to formally organize as the Missouri Animal Ag Coalition. Garrett Hawkins from the Missouri Farm Bureau confirmed that notion when he spoke to the University of Missouri’s Collegiate Farm Bureau chapter on Nov. 18.
The Missouri Animal Ag Coalition will focus on the creation of legislation, a strong public relations campaign, developing a network of partners, finding grassroots support and developing an effective social media presence. Ideally, it will consist of a representative from each industry; along with professionals from all of the fields involved in the future debate with HSUS.
Notable Statements
The following are all statements that hit close to home for any Missouri agriculturalist.
“Our goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture,” said John Goodwin, HSUS coordinator.
“Nothing is more important than promoting veganism,” said Paul Shapiro, HSUS factory farming campaign manager.
“Our long-term goal is to rid the world of animal agriculture and convert everyone to a plant-based diet,” said Bruce Friedrich, PETA outreach director.
Scared yet? I’m not. Missouri agriculture will face a huge battle with HSUS in the coming months. If any state can put a stop to HSUS, it’s Missouri.
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nate 04/17/2010 9:56:00 AM
i can see theres some people posting on here that have no idea what the USHS is really like. if you want to find out, go volunteer at one of the shelters. i worked there for a short period of time back in high school. that experience made me hate the humane society from one end to the other. the humane society is anything but humane. all the cats and puppies are kept in small cages and never let out other than for a few minutes a day so that their cages can be cleaned. dogs are kept in larger pens, but when its time to clean their cages, workers usually turn the hose on them to chase them into the outside portion of the pen so they can clean the cage. they are pretty much treated like unwanted property there.
and the humane society does not in any way care for or nurse sick dogs or cats back to health so they can be adopted out. if an animal comes in and appears to be sick in any way its almost always euthanized after 1 day. injured animals that came in witha broken leg or some other injury- if it required more than a simple bandage it was euthanized immediately. they are awfully quick to euthanize animals, almost like they're a little too eager to do it.my last week there someone brough in a litter of puppies. those puppies were perfectly healthy, nothing wrong with them. the head vet there immeadiately said " well we dont have any room for them" and took the half dozen 3 week old pups into the back room for a date with the needle. the last day i was there i was mopping the floor and doing some general cleaning in that back room. out of curiosity i looked in the cabinet where they kept medical supplies. what i saw was utterly disgusting- no antibiotics, no medications for things like heartworm, nothing like that at all. the cabinet was full of 2 things- traquilizers and about 4 dozen large bottles of Euthanasia. the humane society is not the organization it wants you to think it is, they would rather put animals down than actually try to help them. NEVER DONATE ANYTHING TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY!!!! if you want to really help animals that are abused and neglected, donate to no kill shelters only. if you find a stray, bring it to a no kill shelter and give them a donation while youre there, those are the only places that really do have animals welfare as their primary concern.
ok that being said, i live out in the country, many farms surround me. farmers do NOT mistreat their livestock- it doesnt make any sense to do otherwise. livestock that is abused or neglected do not produce quality food in the long run, or very much of it either. those animals recieve better medical care than i do most of the time.
one thing people need to keep in mind oon top of everything- these animals are FOOD. yes some are kept in cages, mostly for their own well being, but they will eventually be taken to the slaughterhouse and we will eat them. if you dont leave the farmers alone and let them do thier job we would all starve, or at least be stuck eating a lame vegan diet. ever see a strong healthy vegan? me either- they're all skin and bones and weak and sickly looking due to a poor diet.
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Richard 04/17/2010 9:11:00 AM
donny, When was the last time you were actually on a farm? It doesn't matter if it's a family farm or corporate farm, there is no incentive to mistreat animals. Poorly treated animals are unproductive animals. If all you're basing your opinion on is the propaganda pieces put out by the likes of the USHS, then you really don't know the whole truth. They are experts at taking isolated incidents and using them to paint an entire industry with a very broad (and inaccuarate) brush.
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Richard 04/17/2010 9:04:00 AM
Valerie Wehmueller, It's obvious you don't know much about agriculture. The corn that goes to feed cattle is not the same as the corn used to feed people. Most people wouldn't eat the field corn that goes for livestock feed due to it's much less palitable texture and lack of sweetness. They are two entirely different markets.
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Valerie Wehmueller 04/17/2010 7:04:00 AM
Grow up Ronda ! And, quit attacking others just because they don't agree with you! I am trying VERY hard to be a vegetarian, for my health, the planet, &, MOST of all, to protest the INHUMANE treatment of "food animals". I WILL support ANY animal welfare organization that fights for animal rights, not always with a monetary donation, but, however I can help. Anyone who's against such organizations MUST be an animal-hater! No cattle rancher is "keeping my belly full", but, I WOULD like to thank the REAL farmers who grew my vegetarian foods! And, all that corn & other grains grown to feed cattle & other farm animals, COULD feed a WHOLE LOT of STARVING PEOPLE in our country & in the world.So, "back off, smarty-pants", I AM entitled to my opinions, &, yes, I do have a dog & 2 cats by my side, as well as a retired husband(we're on a "fixed" income!),and, a teenage daughter....I am NOT claiming to be a "know-it-all", as you seem to be,nor, am I rich!!
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amber15 04/17/2010 4:27:00 AM
well, I just let Yellow Tailed winery know I will NEVER buy their wines again! I mean if a co. takes back a well deserved gift to help support the humane treatment of animals worldwide due to the petty, greedy complaint of a cattle rancher what kind of company is it???
I have watched HSUS save thousands of animals from puppy mills and abusive treatment all over the world and support their efforts to ensure farm animals have the best treatment they deserve!!!
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john649 04/17/2010 4:18:00 AM
Rhonda- we ALL KNOW YOUR A PAID COMMENTATOR!!!
The infamous Martosko gets paid MILLIONS by corporate fat cats (including the cattle industry) to post propaganda about anti animal anything and your right up there!!! Take a rest. No one buying into your FALSE PROPHET RHETORIC!!!!
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john649 04/17/2010 4:14:00 AM
I FULLY support the HSUS and give regularly and am PROUD to say so.
These ranchers are just angry they have to treat their animals with respect and being called out because their not. I'm REALLY tired of this corporate profit being put before humane treatment.
The HSUS brings a science-based and reasonable approach to these discussions. When agribusiness interests stonewall or demonize HSUS, then HSUS doesn’t just fold its tent. They consider the inhumane treatment of animals on factory farms a matter of moral urgency, and if they cannot reach a compromise, they will push ahead through accepted pathways, such as legislative initiatives, corporate campaigns, or public awareness efforts. The caricature of HSUS as dogmatic and orthodox couldn't be further from reality, and their day-to-day work demonstrates that fact. Howw many cattle ranchers are out their in the trenches rescuing thousands of dogs/cats from filthy puppy mills each month?? ZERO!!!!
They're too busy counting their money and blaming HSUS for their misery.
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 12:55:00 AM
Sorry all! I forgot to address Valeries comment insinuating that farmers are rich people who care more for money than their animals. It might help your view of farmers Valerie if you got in your car and took a drive out in the county and actualy visited some farms. This is Mo. Agriculture is our biggest industry. You can't drive 30 minutes out of any city in the state and not see farms along side of the highway/interstates. Farmers always put their animals needs before their own. Most farmers spend more on vet/feed a year than they will every see hit their bank account to go towards bills. The bills can wait, the animals needs can not. I myself have not been to a doctor in over 5 years. Yes I do have insurance but why pay for meds and co-pays if I can get by with out it. But it has not been 3 weeks since the vet was called. Farmers can no doubt go to work in town and live alot more financialy comfortable life than they do farming. Not to mention the hours. It is not a 9 to 5er. It is a 7 day a week job. You know in other countries when uneducated/uninformed AR people start things such as the HSUS does the farmers/breeders just stop selling. It takes about a month for the AR people and their supporter to see the light. But you see luckily for you American farmers are to poor to do so. It is a week to week existence of getting the bills paid and the feed bought. But if enough AR supporters get their way that is exactly what will happen in the US. Not by choice of the farmers/breeders but because the HSUS and their comrads succeeded in running them out of business.
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Tracy 04/17/2010 12:37:00 AM
Exposing the HSUS for what it really is. A money-grubbing, disingenuous organization that has been downgraded by Charity Navigator to a C- for many, many reasons. Don't believe me. Check it out. And to RabbleRouser, the reason sows are stalled separately is so they don't attack each other and their handlers, and to ensure each sow gets the individual attention they need. You've heard the term "boss hog?" A top sow will hoard all of the bunk space and push the younger, smaller, more meek sows away from a feed source. More aggressive sows will also kill their own piglets. I've seen it first hand, as I had to wrestle a poor crushed piglet away from its own sow when it was less than 3 hours old. That's real life. That's animals. These aren't toys. Pigs are big animals and they are strong. This isn't Charlotte's Web; these are animals that are 5 generations away from going feral at any point.
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Ronda Brooks 04/17/2010 12:30:00 AM
Valarie! Spoken like someone who gets her information from a TV commercial or the HSUS website. Tell us all please what good works the HSUS has done? We can surely refute it with facts. I imagine you are complaining about Mo animal agriculture with a full belly and a pet by your side. How lucky for you and how sad for the people who worked so hard to see that your belly could be full. Educate yourself than hug a farmer! Below I have attached a article written from a interview with the HSUS exec's. They lay it right out there for all to see. YOu see they get a big kick about mouthing off to the ag networks because they know so few will see them. You will see how they manipulate the main stream public to further their agenda of "abolition of all animal agriculture." Article courtesy of Young Producers Counsil.
HSUS – A Squeaky Wheel or a Doomsday Prophecy
Posted on December 9, 2009 15:50 by Matt Hardecke
As cattle producers, we are facing some tremendous challenges in our industry. One that I think is on top of the list is the mounting attacks from animal rights activist. I am involved with an agricultural leadership development program called ALOT (Agricultural Leaders of Tomorrow). This past February we spent a week in Washington D.C. During the week tour we had the opportunity to meet with the Human Society of the United States (HSUS) at their head quarters in DC. This was a once in a lifetime opportunity to “go into the belly of the beast” and ask anything we wanted. After a two hour conversation with the leaders of HSUS around their conference table, one theme stuck in my mind, HSUS will stop at nothing to completely abolish animal protein in the American diet, either by choice or legislation. That is it. The industries attempts to compromise to or adopt HSUS influences are only opening the door to their propaganda and activism. During our meeting, HSUS told us of their intentions to end animal protein as a dietary supplement in the human diet and I quote “we can produce just as good of a steak in a laboratory as you do on your farm; it just isn’t cost effect yet but it will be”
Recently the HSUS has been able to impose its will in states across the USA. With a lot of success and one set back, HSUS has now put its sites on the mid west. It is hard to believe that a rural state like Missouri would ever adopt such sweeping changes but as one HSUS representative said “all we have to do is show a few pictures and the public is on our side, the facts or irrelevant” Many cattlemen don’t understand how legislation changes in states like California, which animals in band crates, can affect cattlemen raising cattle on the open range. The issue isn’t about sow crates; it is about HSUS ability to manipulate public opinion. In DC, HSUS stated that their approach was a deliberate, consistent and determined strategy to change public opinion against animal agriculture. So how does the banning of sow crates affect a Missouri cattleman, it opens the door for the HSUS’s ultimate goal of taking your right to produce and consume beef away from you.
You say “Matt, I am only one person…how can I make a difference?” Your first action must be to become an active member of NCBA and your state and local Cattlemen’s association. By becoming a member you become soldier on the front line defense of our industry. NCBA will equip you to become an activist for the industry. NCBA offers you the opportunity to network with other industry professionals to share ideas and stories which will help in the fight to save our way of life. NCBA is a channel for your voice to be heard when it other wise would go unnoticed. After you have your arsenal full from the NCBA, I would start by presenting the facts to your family and close friends. A grass root effort starts by neighbor talking with neighbor and worker talking to coworker. You would be surprised to find out how many people at your church have no idea what you do for a living. HSUS’s current strategy is to use State ballot initiatives to shape Ag policy. This means that by influencing your circle of friends and family, their votes will add up to defeat the ballot initiatives.
Take people out to your farm and show them how no one cares more about the health and safety of animals than those who raise them. I would also start letting your public servants know how you feel. Our politicians need to know our story. Let them know how important Animal Agriculture is to our local economies and lively hoods. It is also important to recognize that this isn’t just a beef problem or a pork problem, this in an agriculture problem. Two thirds of all the corn grown in the USA is fed to animals, therefore, the corn farmer has just as much at stake in this fight as the animal protein producer, if only indirect. All sectors must rally as one voice to combat the extreme views of groups like the HSUS. Finally, start to tell your story. Animal Agriculture has a proud story to tell. We produce the safest most abundant source of protein the world has ever seen, all while providing the most humane and healthy animals as possible. So, tell your story!
In closing, NOW is the time to start. If HSUS isn’t in your state already, they will be. In DC, HSUS told us they would have a ballot initiative in Iowa next November. Yes the largest pork producing state will be considering banning its way of life. They have hundreds of millions of dollars behind them and probably as many Hollywood celebrities. This will be a true David and Goliath story. Unfortunately I think we are David but have faith, we are in the right, our intentions are true. It is time to stand up and let your voice be heard or else organizations like HSUS are going to silence it.
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Valerie Wehmueller 04/17/2010 12:01:00 AM
Everyone has the right to his or her own opinion. In my opinion, in order to fight back, AND have a fair chance of "winning", The Humane Society of the United States HAS to be "wealthy". Look who they're up against, people who care more about the "almighty dollar", than how these poor helpless animals are treated before being slaughtered, & during the process of slaughter itself!! Whether an animal is destined for food or not, they ARE living, FEELING creatures, and as such, deserve to be treated in a decent, HUMANE manner. We will ALWAYS support the AWESOME work the Humane Society does on behalf of animals everywhere. It seems "Yellow Tail" wines is a coward with it's "tail" between it's legs!!
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Ronda Brooks 04/16/2010 11:11:00 PM
In response to the post concerning the lack of post from farmers. Please understand that many farmers I know (and that is alot) do not surf the net. Unfortunately many were unaware of the HSUS threat on the industry until as of late. The HSUS is a slick crew and has been flying under the radar. But this year they have 120 pieces of legislation aimed at the great united states. In wisconsin they are actualy trying to go so far as declassifying animals as property. Can you imagine! I am a farm girl, born and raised as such. I can speak for all the farms in my area when I say humane practices are indeed the norm, not what the HSUS shows in their teary commercials. The HSUS was brought to my attention through my state rep. I do have the internet so I got busy researching. I was first shocked, then flew quickly to furious. Let me start off with the current "puppy mill" petition aimed at Mo. First off the things stated up front that get the most empathy are all ready law in Mo. Mo has some of the strictest laws on the books concerning dogs and have for some time. Any one in doubt please call the Mo department of animal agriculture. The # is a google away. They will gladly confirm that it is indeed law in Mo that dogs in a licensed facility must have feed, water, shelter, med care and such. You will see the AR folks crying that Mo has 3,000 puppy mills. I must ask where these are all located?? If they know of any it is their civic duty to report them to the Mo department of animal agriculture through operation bark alert. That is what it is there for. This is a MO goverment agency. Not a HSUS one! What is important in this petition that will get us all (unless you are a die hard vegan) if we let it slide in is that they have the description of pet as "domesticated animal." For those unaware chickens, cows and such are domesticated animals. Ar people like to counter with oh that does not count. Call a lawyer! I did, it very much counts. Plus the AR people pushing this have slipped in that if voted in the rescues/shelters would be exempt from these laws. You see currently they must abide by the same laws as a licensed breeder. Pretty sneaky hun! Always pay attention to that fine print. That is where they get ya! I could go on and on with this but there are chores to do. I might check back to deflate the untruthful comments that will follow from the AR supporters. See you down the road!
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Patricia McHugh 04/16/2010 9:27:00 PM
Factory farming is NOT sustainable - was not the norm even 40-50 years ago. SEE "Food, Inc." on PBS (KETC channel 9.1) on Wed. 4/21, 9-11pm, one of their P.O.V. documentaries (now on DVD). Dja know about "veggie libel laws"?
Spare 20 minutes to see storyofstuff.com RE extractive vs. sustainable?
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Nione 04/16/2010 3:02:00 AM
Melissa and Fay are correct, the HSUS is an animal lobbying organization that spends next to nothing on the care or protection of animals in the United States. Pacelle is a former employee of PETA as well as having hired several other people from both PETA and ALF to work for the HSUS. They did massive fundraisers both after Hurrican Katrina and after the Michael Vick dogs were taken, and none of that money actually went to help any of those animals. Yet they used those tragedies to trick the American people into boosting their funds. I would be completely in favor of a measure in Missouri that regulated what the large factory farms were and were not able to do in regards to humane raising of animals, especially in getting rid of the puppy mills, but I refuse to support anything that the HSUS is proposing. Their motives are entirely suspect, as far as I'm concerned. I try to buy local, free range, grass fed, etc. These measures can affect how those farmers are able to run their operations as well.
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Melissa 04/16/2010 1:53:00 AM
It's important to point out that the Humane Society of the United States that is featured in this story is NOT the same organization as your local Humane Society. HSUS is a lobbyist extremist organization, not the local pet shelter.
And Rabble Rouser, the reason sows are kept for a short time after giving birth in farrowing crates where they can't turn around is to protect her piglets. Without a farrowing crate, sows frequently smother many of their piglets unintentionally. Sows are very large animals who give birth to many small piglets at a time; she can't tell that she is stepping on or laying on her young.
The vast majority of farmers and ranchers are very humane to their stock, whether the farmer owns two or two-thousand head.
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Drew Peacock 04/16/2010 12:03:00 AM
The photo is a shameless rip-off from Poultrygeist
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donny 04/15/2010 10:34:00 PM
HSUS is pretty moderate organization compared to the likes of PETA and Animal Liberation. The ballot initiatives are only asking to return to more humane animal husbandry practices that have been used before factory farms came into the picture. When people imagine where their food comes from they think of a pastoral setting of green grass and rolling hills. The "farms" of today are like something out of a nightmarish science fiction movie. The public wants to assured that the animal that they are eating are not tortured before they got to their plate.
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Joe Kras 04/15/2010 9:38:00 PM
In "Down on the Farm" Princeton professor Peter Singer is quoted several times, because of his book, Animal Liberation.
In addition to the relatively mild quotes in the article, readers should be aware that Singer also feels that a mature chimpanzee is more important than a human baby. He has written that parents should be able to have their handicapped child killed by lethal injection, and argued (in 2008 at a talk at Washington University) that babies weren't human until they reached Piaget's level of understanding object permanence (generally about 1 year of age).
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Fay 04/15/2010 7:42:00 PM
HSUS is a scam. They have an agenda to elimate the family pet, all of us should be forced to become vegans, and they fundraise under false means. HSUS will show up where they think they can find money....hence they used my name to raise 1.2m over my tortured life as a victim of dogfighting. How did HSUS use the money? Funny after that fundraiser they bought stock in Steak-n-Shake. I guess you all know that Wayne does not even own a pet? Funny how in the picture he is making sure the fur does not touch his expensive suite.
Please read the truth about HSUS instead of using rose colored glasses. Animals do need to be treated in humane fashion. So I only purchase free range chicken and beef. Please let the free market dictate not a bunch of con artists.
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Mike Oxlong 04/15/2010 5:12:00 PM
Not very original - cover photo is stolen idea from the movie Poultrygeist
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04/15/2010 8:38:00 AM
I thought this was a really well written piece that shows everyone in a neutral light. I have yet to hear any farmer admit that under current practices, it's true that not all animals are able to "stand up, lie down and turn around freely, and fully extend all limbs." In fact, I hear mostly from ranchers, which is strange, because cattle are not kept in cages. Sows, hens, and veal calves are. I don't see anything radical about the modest reforms the Humane Society is proposing.
I'm glad that animals have someone like Wayne Pacelle with the testicular fortitude to stand up for them. People keep coming up with all these stupid reasons to oppose the HSUS, and yet 99% of them are BS. The fact of the matter is, these industries don't want to change. Ask yourself why anyone would be adamantly opposed to giving a sow a big enough space to turn around in, and see if you can come up with any reason besides money. And don't try to tell me it's the only way to keep a sow safe, because it's not. There are alternatives. It's time to see the light, people.
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Mary 04/15/2010 7:54:00 AM
Pacelle used to work for PETA
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steve 04/15/2010 5:57:00 AM
Just curious....what is the salary of the head of the Humane society? And who pays it?
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LuckyLu 04/15/2010 1:17:00 AM
Jade, I am glad you brought up your wallet. That's where the HSUS crusade's "successes" will hit each and every one of us, whether we like it or not. I have absolutely no problem with your choice of food, whatever it may be. You may choose to purchase organic/cage free/free range/grass fed all you like, and I'm glad you can afford it. But when the CAFO's or large farms are regulated out of business by the policies the HSUS espouses, either 1) the feds cut the numbers of those who can be assisted by WIC, foodstamps, etc. due to escalating food costs and unavailability of cheap protein sources, 2) those folks on public assistance are relegated to imported food from second- and third-world countries (arguably risky from a food-safety standpoint), or 3)taxes must increase to support those programs. I for one don't believe this country can stand to starve its needy children or give them food that the "haves" would not choose to eat, nor can 10% unemployment fill the government's coffers with tax revenue to fund this crusade. If market conditions are such that consumer's food choices espousing HSUS principles cut significantly into their business CAFO's and large farms will adapt accordingly, and continue to provide Americans jobs feeding our own citizens. Let your personal choices speak in that way.
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Xuberance 04/15/2010 12:12:00 AM
Just a minute. "Animals that are built to move are able to move"? What about humans? Let's turn this around a second to put it into a more universal perspective: Do I get to tell Microsoft or Johnson & Johnson that their employees should each have an 8 x 10 office and that cubicles are inhumane??!! No. Then why do people who have NEVER BEEN TO MY FARM - or any farm for that matter - get to tell me how to run my business? The HSUS is a misleading, criminal organization.
In this article it asks who should be able to decide on how agriculture is run, but it leaves out one HUGE population involved in the life cycle of our products: the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD. You want to ask those nations that depend on our chickens, wheat, eggs, beef, pork, etc. to vote on this? Then also tell them that if the HSUS gets their way, the US will not be able to send any more cheap, nutrient-rich food to them because legislation has driven US farmers out of business. Excellent idea.
I can't wait until all the people who voted in favor of these measures are screaming for a good steak because the farmers have decided to just grow enough for themselves. Thank God I'm a country girl.
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Jade 04/14/2010 9:32:00 PM
Good. Had I known about this earlier, I would have gone out and bought some Yellow Tail wine on purpose to give them my support. Sorry to see they caved under pressure. Change needs to come, and I am glad to see the Humane Society is not afraid to get out there and do what it takes. Let the people do the talking: with their wallets. Wake up people!