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Kevin O'Brien 11/01/2010 9:34:00 PM
Paul,
I am hoping that you will read this, although it is a few months after you have gone public. My thoughts and prayers go out to you, your children and your entire family. Your son is the mirror image of what I remember you to be at that age. I think back at the many times we played at Mullaly Field during this time and I had no idea the abuse that had been perpetrated upon you. I only wish that you would have told just one of us and maybe…just maybe one of us could have alerted a responsible adult to imform the authorities.
After reading the original article "Sins of the Father" I had spoken to one of my classmates from St. Mary Magdalen before you had revealed your identity and I told her that if it was someone that we knew then that would truly break my heart.
I told her that no matter the identity of “John Doe” this matter is very troubling if the abuse occurred. When it hits close to home and is someone you know it is that much more devastating. Paul, although it does break my heart to learn that you were the victim of Fr. Cooper's evil acts, I pray that you will heal, find closure, and can move forward with God’s love and guidance. Moreover, I thank God that you breaking the cycle of abuse that was perpetrated upon you.
You can locate me in New Jersey through our mutual friends who hung around at Mullaly Field. You will always have our prayers and support.
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Mom 08/01/2010 1:07:00 AM
I am proud of my son, Paul, for having the courage to reveal his identity surrounding the sexual abuse that he suffered by Cooper. Cooper does NOT deserve to be called "Father" or Mister by my standards. According to my Catholic upbringing, Cooper will burn in hell. Paul, I pray for you everyday. I hope your mental tourment will be lessened by your coming forward.
God Bless You
Love always Mom
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cingidog 07/27/2010 6:50:00 AM
I am a native of Illinois, and lived within 25 miles of downtown St. Louis for the first 22 years of my life. Fortunatlely, I never attended Catholic schools, nor do I miss being served fish for lunch every Friday in the public schools I attended. First, my heart goes out to the young boys that were victimized by these priests. I pray for their courage to tell their stories now and bring an end to this continuing problem of the Catholic church. As for priests that do these things, I wish for an extra level of eternal suffering in hell. For the Catholic church, I will pray for it's reformation and it's acceptance of full responsiblity.
I have read the Bible, and studied it. It has always been apparent the only way unto savation, and the Father is through Jesus Christ, not the Catholic church. The positions of Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, etc. with the authority to govern many congregations, was condemned by Jesus himself in the New Testament. Don't bother looking in the Canon, or any other man written document. They are not from the complete, unrefutable, inspired Word of God. The Church of Christ, established on the Day of Pentecost, is Christ's Church, not a Catholic church. I realize saying these things are somewhat like being an Oklahoma fan setting on the Texas side of the field. If you're still reading, let's look again in a tongue-in-cheek way. Priests: men who limit interaction with women, take an unnatural vow of celebacy (further limiting their interaction), and wear garb that would make Liberace blush, all in service to their god. Their god is not my God, the one true and living God. I agree with one of the other writers,"...the Catholic church is rotting from the inside out..." But, from Jesus' teachings in the New Testament, I am not surprised.
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Michelle M. 07/26/2010 2:46:00 AM
I am Paul Alvino's niece. I have posted on this story once before. My father is Pete Alvino, my uncle's twin brother. I was raised as a Catholic and I attended catholic schooling. I wanted to take the time to thank all of the people that have supported my uncle from the beginning and continue to support him. As I had mentioned before my uncle has more integrity than anyone I know. He is a good person and has always been there for my siblings and I after and prior to the passing of our father. I want to thank the clergy men that have had the courage and compassion to contact my uncle to let him know that they are sorry for what he has gone through. My uncle stated that he believes not all priest are bad and this just goes to show that truth. Those priests are the prime example as to why my family continues to bring their children up in the catholic way of life. Though there of course are those in the church that have done horrible things to boys and girls & those priest and the Archdioceses must take responsibility! This story shows just a glimmer of how many people have had their lives affected by actions of those in the church. This has not been an easy road for my uncle but he is a strong person and will continue to fight the good fight. I have always been proud to have him as a father figure and this just makes me even prouder! I love you Uncle Paul and I am always here for you!
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Fr. Mitch Doyen 07/25/2010 8:13:00 PM
This is not easy for me to do; perhaps it is not wise either. I cannot claim to come close to empathizing with or understanding "Doe"' now whom we know is Paul. Thank you for your courage, Paul. I do understand why he went back to the cabin, though. I was seduced by a priest whom I had come to admire as a model and a mentor in my first year of college at the Military Academy. Long story short, I permitted him to make arrangements for us to share a bed in the guest room of a mutual friend's home on Post. I have continually asked myself how I could be so stupid. And why was I surprised when he turned to kiss me on the lips, and why did not beat the shit out of him in that moment. Me, an intelligent cadet at USMA simply rolling over and praying for the dawn. I neVer said a word to anyone. I invited him into my parents' home and introduced him as my friend and mentor, it was a grand reunion with other cadets from USMA who had also come to admire him. I felt ashamed every moment I was around him. After a few months of that I wrote him to say I did not think I wanted to be connected anymore. I never accused him of anything. I waffle back and forth between wishing I could forgive him to wishing I had just killed him in that moment.
So...I have a lot of anger regarding how the Church has managed the so-called crisis. Ironically today's scriptures are about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, being baptized into Christ's death, the forgiveness of all our transgressions and our access to the Holy Spirit. Here is my read on it: No one is innocent, not even God Himself, and least of all the Church. God sent His only Son to reconcile the whole world to Himself, including Himself. That is why we are a new creation. Here is the poem I am using for my homily in one hour: It is from Hafiz: From man's perspective in this intricate game of love, it is so easy to become confused and think you are the do-er. But from God's infinite certainty, He always knows that He is the only One who should ever be put on trial.
Sorry for the rambling. Can we please stop the madness? Can we let go of ALL self-righteousness? Is it possible to trust God's abundant mercy enough so we can imagine a world where men do not become molesters, where women are not abused, where power is not our one true God? It is worth striving for. My best recommendation is that every priest in the world get down on their knees for one hour in the same hour and say "We are sorry" and entrust ourselves and the Church only and completely to God's mercy. That would be a good beginning.
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Cindy Schafer 07/23/2010 9:50:00 PM
St. Mary Magdalen Parish should be further investigated. In the late 60's Fr. Robert Marquitz molested many young women. I was one of those women. However, in particularly, he controlled one woman. She is now in her late 50's and her life is a mess. Monsignor Meyer was the pastor at that time. Looking back on what I experienced with the priests from that parish the rectory reminds me of a frat house out of control. The only priest that was likely celebate was Fr. Vogler. Ironically, he was the priest that we considered a homosexual. If only all of the individuals that had inappropriate things done to them by these priests would come forward. I believe it would be shocking.
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Paul J. Alvino 07/23/2010 7:36:00 AM
My name is Paul Alvino and I am the John Doe in last week's story, "Sins of the Father." I never wanted my identity to be concealed, but was advised to do so at the time of the interview with Nicholas Phillips by my lawyers. I decided to come forward with my identity because I am no longer ashamed or embarrassed by what happened to me. I have always been truthful in every aspect of my life and it offends me that people would question my integrity. As for the lady that had posted anonymously stating that I had a conversation with her brother about Fr. Cooper that is just not true. I shared everything with my twin brother, Pete. If I was too ashamed to confide in Pete with what had happened to me, why would I then confide in YOUR brother. I would like to know who your "brother" is and if in fact I even knew him. Mr. Haberberger, you have posted 5 comments regarding the article (more than any other reader). What I would like to know is what interest do you have in this story and Mr. Tim Fischer's story? You seem to be following these abuse cases in the Archdiocese pretty intently. Do you have a relative in a religious order or do you have ties within the Archdiocese? I'm glad you have an interest in my story, but please remember the Archdiocese stated that they believe the abuse did take place. I cannot tell you "how the hell" Fr. Cooper managed to lure me back the second time. I am sorry that I do not have an answer for you, all I can tell you is that I was a child. I would like to thank everyone that has supported me with words of encouragement and those that have shared their stories. People have told me that I am brave for coming forward and speaking up, now if only the Archdiocese would do the same & be honest and accept responsibility for what has happened to me and MANY other victims of abuse, then maybe we could move on with our lives. I would especially like to thank Nicholas Phillips for giving me the opportunity to share my story, for that I will consider him a good friend for the rest of my life. I would also like to thank Fr. Joe Classen for taking the time to call me and to explain what he had meant when he published his article in the church bulletin that I had mentioned in the "John Doe Goes Public" statement. I accept his explanation and I am grateful for his sincerity and his support. Once again, I would like to state that not ALL priests are bad and I honestly believe that, but the ones that are must be removed immediately!
Thank you,
Paul J. Alvino
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Carl 07/19/2010 8:06:00 PM
This story illustrates a much larger point regarding the Church's cupability for harboring pedophiles. Here's an analogy that helps me think through the dimensions of this issue:
The Church "sells/provides" a few central "products" to it's "consumers". Namely: morality, trust & faith. Yes I realize that is an overly simplistic view of the Church's role in our lives, but let's go with it for now.
A number of years back a product company selling "healing products" (namely Tylenol) had a major issue with a few incidents in which their product did not provide healing, but rather provided harm. Major changes insued including product recalls and new packaging and safeguards. Imagine if that scenario played out and instead of finding out that one lunatic was poisoning the product, it was discovered that there were multiple employees of the company poisoning the product and that management knew of the conditions yet did nothing publically to prevent further harm. If that were the case, its safe to say that Tylenol as a product would no longer exist and the company behind it would have folded as well.
Now with the Catholic church knowing for years of pedophelia in its ranks, working in direct opposition of their tennats for morality, faith & trust & with "management" knowing of the condition -- how is it that the Church still can skate by on this topic?
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George Haberberger 07/19/2010 7:32:00 PM
The validity of repressed memory is controversial in psychiatric circles. The article says that the psychologist brought up the possibility and John Doe denied it but he "he kept asking." Some psychiatrists postulate the memories may be consciously repressed but not unconsciously.
"There are several individuals who have made comments that I have found to be incredibly heartless, naive, and unwarranted. @ George Harberbeger- You quite honestly make me ill to my stomach. My father was one victim of Father Cooper, many years later after much discussion my brothers and I were baptized in the Catholic Church by Father Thomas Graham. Does this name ring a bell? Well it should because in 2005 he was found guilty of abuse on a young boy."
Sorry that I upset you but I can't be the only one who found John Doe's return to Cooper's cabin strange. His situation doesn't parallel Elizabeth Smart's, (or Shawn Hornbeck's for that matter). He wasn't kidnapped or prevented from returning home.
And what does Father Graham baptizing you have to do with this case? He didn't molest you or your father or you surely would have mentioned it.
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Anonymous 07/19/2010 3:30:00 AM
It was reported among my friends during the 70's that Fr. Cooper was doing bad stuff to young boys. I never wanted to believe it. Now, I know that it's true. I don't doubt that something happened between John Doe and Cooper. I do have some doubts that Doe is being totally truthful. I say this because when I discussed this with my brother, he told me that Doe told my brothers and others about Cooper walking around naked and showing Doe and others girly mags. So yes, I believe that something happened. On the other hand, I'm leery of the "repressed memories" part. If Doe repressed the memories, how could he have shared stories with my brother and other kids? Surely someone over the years would occasionally have commented to him about Cooper.
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Anonymous 07/19/2010 3:22:00 AM
It was reported among my friends during the 70's that Fr. Cooper was doing bad stuff to young boys. I never wanted to believe it. Now I know that it's true. I don't doubt that something happened between John Doe and Cooper. I do have some doubts because when I discussed this with my brother, he told me that Doe told him and others about Cooper walking around naked. How, then, can he have "repressed memories"?
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tjf 07/18/2010 12:01:00 AM
Casey, I knew your dad and his family as we too grew up in St. Mary Magdalen parish. You have courage and I commend you for the comments you made and your dad needs you and your family that whole 110% you talk about. My brother, too, was abused by Fr. Cooper at about the same time period your dad was. And I am sure there are many others. My brother's memory was jogged in the last 10 years after suffering many years of private turmoil, wanting to commit suicide, and just not being able to express himself. With the help of a doctor and a wonderful wife and family, he has been able to "come around" as best he can and we are all here for him. My father, who was VERY active in that parish is beside himself even today, knowing that this could have happened, much less to his own son. Fr. Cooper was an evil man...I remember him being so friendly to all the boys. To let him live in a place where all the young people's activities took place is a crime in itself. The man was an alcoholic and a pervert and I hope he rots in HELL!!!
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SouthSider 07/17/2010 6:49:00 AM
Casey, I want to commend you and your family for standing up for the truth despite the naysayers. I can only imagine how difficult it has been for your whole family. Im glad you are at a stage where you are proud of your father. He sounds like a typical guy from the South Side who typically catches flack for being what he is...a hard working guy who loves his family. I have to say that I also find it very strange how the Catholic bishops and cardinals run around talking about Canon Law this and Canon Law that. Has anybody informed them that their system of law is is no more important than the laws of any corporation? Have they deluded themselves to think that anybody actually gives two craps about Canon Law? I know Burke was, as they have said, one of the great Canonists of our age...but again, guess what. NOBODY CARES BECAUSE YOU CANT POLICE YOUR OWN PRIESTS, and YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. Jesus this all pisses me off.
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Carl 07/17/2010 4:29:00 AM
Yet another sad story of abuse by a predatory adult on a child. This behavior is both immoral and illegal. I only wish the Catholic leadership would recognize it as such and address it more systemically. This incident / series of incidents occurred in the era when school kids looked up to their parish priests and respected their place in the community. Abuse in the 60's/70's would be even more confounding and unsettling to the victim, than it might be today, when even the kids have a more worldly view of all around them with less naive respect for elders. I'm not surprised that John Doe repressed the experience.
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Casey 07/17/2010 3:14:00 AM
Before I begin, I would like to state that it is with my father’s permission I write this comment. John Doe is my dad. There are several individuals who have made comments that I have found to be incredibly heartless, naive, and unwarranted.
@ George Harberbeger- You quite honestly make me ill to my stomach. My father was one victim of Father Cooper…many years later after much discussion my brothers and I were baptized in the Catholic Church by Father Thomas Graham. Does this name ring a bell? Well it should because in 2005 he was found guilty of abuse on a young boy. As far as your comment regarding his credibility, he was younger than 13 years old. Do you have children? Do you have any concept of the maturity and mentality of a child this age? Clearly, you do not. While I will not sit here and say that all priests are pedophiles and perverts, I will say that the Catholic Church is very clearly trying to cover up these situations, and it is very naive of you to think otherwise.
@Anne McNally- He may be passed, but he will ALWAYS be an abuser. It is not a matter of defense, my father may be many things, but he is NOT a liar. My father is an upstanding individual that has worked his entire life to see it to it that his children have a better life than he has had and has NEVER once stood there with his hand out expecting something in return. He is fighting to protect future children from this kind of abuse and to give a voice to other victims who can relate to where he is coming from. My father NEVER wanted to be anonymous. However, those who are helping him fight this battle directed him to go nameless for this article. I also love that you mention the family of the perverse abuser, what about my family? Did you take a second to think about the kind of repercussions our family has faced over the years? How difficult it has been for us to watch our father/ uncle/ friend/ cousin/brother deal with the pain Father Cooper’s actions have caused?! I thank the River Front Times and Nicholas Phillips for giving my father and other victims a voice. Father Cooper got off easily; he is the one who should have thought about his own family before inappropriately touching and molesting young men.
@ Tim Fisher- I would like to thank you for your support and courage to come forward. I wish that all people out there had some sort of sensitivity toward victims of abuse, but there will always be those who must say negative things either to get attention or to bring down others in order to make them feel better. I wish you nothing but happiness in your future.
For others that have posted your support and experiences on this article I would like to thank you as well. My father and my family need all the support we can get during these times.
My father and I have had a rocky relationship in the past because of the internal battles he must face each day. As his daughter I stand behind him 110%. I love my father very much and believe that he is “fighting the good fight.” My brothers and I support him unconditionally and hope that he will prevail in order to prevent all of us from reading these kinds of articles in the future.
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Kristy Wendt 07/17/2010 12:59:00 AM
Love the story and Vlad Alvarez and the story with Vlad Alvaraz. Good job Nick and Tom!
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Michelle M. 07/16/2010 10:04:00 PM
Is does not matter if he priest is living or dead. The man is this story went after him as soon as his memory was jolted back into place! How dare someone write that they think its a shame the RFT is attacking a dead preist! How about how dare that priest do horrible things to these young men!!! And as for the comment that the young man in the story returned to the cabin after the first incident doesn't anyone remember the Elizabeth Smart situation where she denied being Elizabeth Smart. Who knows what kind of hold these sick individuals have on victims to make them come back or stay with them. And it was proven that Elizabeth had been sexually abused. The priest cabin was either purchased or maintained through money he had received because of his occupation! The church needs to recognize that there is a growing problem. The catholic church tries to pride itself on helping it's followers and then turns right around and disregards them! I know the victim in this story and his integrity is stronger than anyone I know. This is not something he would make up to gain a buck! It is truly horrible that the church knew of this priest actions prior and continued to juggle him thru parishes! The church is FULLY responsible! I hope John Doe prevails for all the victims out there!
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George Haberberger 07/16/2010 8:38:00 AM
"This is a link to my story for George Haberberger. Http://www.timfischer1.com"
Tim Fischer,
Why are you posting this link for me? I'm familiar with your story. I read it years ago. We've communicated on your website before. Besides your circumstance does nothing to refute what I've posted here.
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SouthSider 07/16/2010 6:56:00 AM
SouthSideSTL: this is exactly my point. I would like to hear from every Monsignor who was a pastor at a parish where abuse took place.
What would be the response? Likely "I had no idea..." Which is a total lie, since in most cases these guys were put directly in parishes to be "supervised."
This would show the overall complicity of the clergy in the problem. The laity, at least, can half way plead ignorance because of the pre-Vatican II world that they grew up in, ie., "Dont insult the priest."
The other irony, of course, is that in Canon Law the discipline imposed on a priest who molests children is, at worst, the removal of his priestly faculties, while someone who attacks a bishop or Pope is excommunicated. Weird stuff.
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SouthSideSTL 07/16/2010 5:48:00 AM
I grew up in St. Mary Magdalen Parish and attended the parish school, and Fr. Cooper's habit of innapropriate contact was generally known among the junior high boys of the parish. This was several years after the incidents of abuse related in this story, and after the report of abuse made to the archdiocese in 1968, also cited in the article, which would seem to indicate that Fr. Cooper's behavior was allowed to continue unchecked. It was also generally known among parishioners that Fr. Cooper was assigned to St. Mary Magdalen so that he might be "supervised" and held accountable for his struggles with alcoholism. Whatever the reason, it's ironic that Fr. Cooper's chief duties at the parish were the maintenance and oversight of the parish center, a large complex located across Kingshighway from the church and school that included a gymnasium and bowling alley, and which was the location of almost all the youth activities of the parish. If I recall correctly, Fr. Cooper even lived at the parish center, rather than in the rectory, which would make supervision of his activities and/or coming and going even less likely. Perhaps the persons who should be questioned or deposed in this case would be the other priests who worked with Fr. Cooper, starting with Monsignor Meyer, the long-time pastor of the parish.
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Eric 07/16/2010 4:44:00 AM
Sorry state of affairs when you cannot even trust your clergy. Wonder how much has been swept under the carpet by the Pope???
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Tim Fischer 07/16/2010 3:56:00 AM
This is a link to my story for George Haberberger. Http://www.timfischer1.com
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George Haberberger 07/16/2010 3:51:00 AM
"Have ANY priests publicly come forward to expose any of their brethren? Nope."
A priest of my personal acquaintance caught James Beine with a young boy is his bedroom and went to his superiors with this information.
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SouthSider 07/16/2010 12:49:00 AM
It very well might be that these abusers were/are anomalies.
But that simply does not explain how priests, living with each, studying with each, and socializing with each other would not have inklings that there were problems. I was a parishioner as a youth at the same time in another south side parish where several priests have been accused, one thrown in prison for life. Can someone please explain honestly how the pastor didnt see, or how the other two priests did not see? Come to think of it...that pastor invited me to go fishing with him on a number of occasions but I never did. Hmmm.
All priests and bishops are complicit, even if they did not touch one child. They all have the millstone firmly around their neck. Have ANY priests publicly come forward to expose any of their brethren? Nope. Have any bishops done so? Nope.
When a priest turns in one of his own, then I will believe that perhaps one priest puts children ahead of fellow priests. Until then, they are completely suspect.
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steve s. 07/15/2010 11:13:00 PM
I would agree with the comment that most priests are fine examples and those that are bad are a small minority. I went to catholic schools my entire life and the priests I had interaction with were good men and were trying their best to help those entrusted to their care. I think that the screening process now used, plus advances in understanding the psychology of abusers will help to further minimize this sort of thing in the future.
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George Haberberger 07/15/2010 10:56:00 PM
I grew in the 60s and 70s. I went to a Catholic grade school, (Immaculate Conception in Arnold), and high school, (St. Pius X in Festus), and was an altar boy at my parish. Several people who posted here say they have also been abused. I wish everyone who read this story would post their own experience. The ratio of abused to non-abused would be telling. I was never abused nor did I know of anyone who was abused. Every priest I have known in my life, and there have been dozens, have been upstanding, moral and fine examples of Christian principles. I know that is not what people expect to hear but I want to make it clear the abusive priests are anomalies. The incidence of pedophilia within the priesthood is the same percentage as the general population, (approximately 4%). Stories like this one and SNAP would have everyone thinking the abuse is rampant in the Catholic Church. It is not.
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Nicholas Phillips 07/15/2010 10:16:00 PM
Dear Readers:
Some of you have asked me how to get in contact with people mentioned in this story. See the phone numbers listed below:
Deacon Phil Hengen, Office of Child and Youth Protection, Archdiocese of St. Louis
(314) 633-2279
Rebecca Randles, victims attorney (Kansas City): (816) 931-9901
Ken Chackes, victims attorney (St. Louis): (314) 872-8420
David Clohessy, SNAP (314) 566-9790
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theczar 07/15/2010 8:44:00 PM
This does not shock me at all. I was an altar boy at that church in the early 1970's. He used to give us unwelcomed pinches on our nipples after mass. I never thought about it a child, but later in life the pieces started adding up.
Another black spot on the life of dedicated priests. You would think that they would want to get rid of these pedophilias in their calling.
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John L. Wall 07/15/2010 8:44:00 PM
I, too, am a survivor of abuse by one living and one dead preditory homosexual man of the cloth. I am also a cousin of Bernard Huger, second generation attorney "defending" these perverts. Bernie, you have no honor, and your work has nothing to do with truth. There is no justice without truth, but there's plenty of money without honor, ain't there, Cuz?
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SouthSider 07/15/2010 7:34:00 PM
I sincerely hope that more victims come forward that might have been abused by Cooper.
I find it absolutely deplorable that the Archdiocese hides behind lawyers the way that it does. The Archdiocesan rep who says "Well, we NOW know from psychology that these guys can't really be treated, so we are doing things differently" is an absolute jackass. If, in 1971, anyone publicly said that children were being brought to a cabin to be raped, who would have said that this is acceptable? What planet are these people living on? Also, note the language of the Archdiocese attorneys...the concern is always more for the priest than the victims.
There is layer in hell for the abusers, but the layer of hell devoted to those who covered for these bastards and who continue to cover it up is much deeper, and much more harsh. Dante would have a field day with these people.
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Jane 07/15/2010 6:41:00 PM
The Catholic Church undoubtedly has a mounting problem with their abusing priests, but want to deny anything is wrong. The Pope is as much to blame since he wants to sweep it under the rug. The Catholic church is sick!
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Anne McNally 07/15/2010 5:47:00 PM
Mr. Cooper doesn't deserve to be called Father. He now must face & accoumt to his creator for his actions. Those that have been involved in his cover-up will also have to be accountable for their actions someday.
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oldavman 07/15/2010 5:29:00 PM
The Saint Louis district attorney needs to file Obstruction of Justice against the archdiocese! But, with St. Louis so heavily Roman Catholic, there's not a chance in hell that will happen. What a profound shame!
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lmowerman 07/15/2010 4:55:00 PM
The church is responsible for all of its cover ups.
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Anne Marie 07/15/2010 7:37:00 AM
As a mother of several boys, I find the alleged actions of this priest DEPLORABLE. But, what I also find deplorable is that the riverfront times would pick a story about a dead priest, who can niether defend and deny or admint and ask for absolution from the person he has hamed. There are supposedly plenty of stories about victims of priest who are alive and can take the heat for themselves and their actions. I WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING I WOULD GO AFTER ANYONE WHO DID THIS TO MY BOYS. But what the Riverfront times did was put this person's family on display and punish them as well. If the victim has rights to be annonymous, so does the accused until proven guilty (you can't question the dead, only GOD can). My heart and prayers go out to this victim , may he find peace and healing. Also to any of the family that may have been harmed by this piece the same for you.
As far lexicaon 5 know your church rules, you can not be married outside a church building in St. Louis Archdiocese.
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Lexicon5 5 07/15/2010 7:11:00 AM
Love the graphic by the way...the All-Seeing Eye of God watching the cabin.
What I cant understand is how these people who are supposed to be leading the flocks to heaven can stand in the pulpit every Sunday knowing the day before they had some little boy naked doing only God and these men know what.
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lexicon5 5 07/15/2010 7:08:00 AM
I thought a priest was a priest 24/7/365. So what the judge has said here is....if you were married outside of the church building...like at Tower Grove park for instance at random....you're marriage is null and void. Or if a person was given last rights at a hospital,...they dont count. A priests actions do not count outside of the church building at least where molestation occurs.
Look...there are going to be a LOT of people burn in hell over all of this. Including the Popes...they'll get their payback from Jesus Christ Himself in Person I hope. He may cast them into the eternal fire by hand.
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womwhim 07/15/2010 6:30:00 AM
The depths to which the Catholic church will sink to protect itself should surprise no one. As a survivor of vicious sexual abuse by a priest AND other adults on church property, Mr. Doe's story is all too familiar. I started having flashbacks of my abuse 19 years ago at the age of 36. I've been in therapy since that time, trying to repair the damage caused by an institution that cares only about power and will do any and everything to preserve that power. I can only hope that the karma of the universe will someday prove more powerful than the Catholic Church, which is rotting from the inside out.
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Pam 07/15/2010 5:21:00 AM
The Church is trying to make the public believe that everything is OK now. But it's not all hunky-dorey. The victims are still hurting and the Church is either 1) ignoring them; or 2) fighting them tooth and nail.
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shelly 07/15/2010 5:13:00 AM
It's not right for them to know and do nothing about stopping Fr. Cooper. And then to get out of being held accountable for it is wrong. This kind of ruling in court makes it all the more difficult for victims to get the courage to speak up.
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ann 07/15/2010 3:22:00 AM
i am a victim of a dead priest. it was acknowledged as all true, have it in writing from the diocese, i ned basic money for real needs. All i get now is to be ignored
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George Haberberger 07/15/2010 2:48:00 AM
"The other episode to surface during Doe's jolt of memory recovery occurred sometime later that summer, when Cooper MANAGED TO LURE DOE BACK TO THE CLUBHOUSE."
WHAT??! How the hell did Cooper "manage to lure him back." He is saying that after being raped a few months earlier he went back! Why? That seems suspicious.
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Mollie 07/15/2010 2:24:00 AM
Great article!
As discussed previously, here is some of the info on the Catholic Church investigating orders of nuns. Heaven forbid they open up an investigation into those priests though...
Also, the church is allegedly issuing a statement tomorrow about new rules to deal with abuse.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/20/vatican-probes-nuns-lack-of-adherence-to-doctrine/
Don't worry though, they are also making it "a major crime against the church" to ordain a woman. Good thing they have priorities.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/14/vatican-set-to-publish-new-rules-on-abuse/?hpt=T2
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glorybe1929 07/15/2010 12:57:00 AM
I feel so bad for God's precious young children,the handicapped and marginalized, that they have had to go through this spiritual murder by priests, nuns and Catholic clergy ALL OVER THE CATHOLIC WORLD, who have done this to them delibertly.
Pre meditated Crimes Against Humanity by a respected church for millenium(S), needs to be tried in THE WORLD COURT AND FOUND GUILTY OF THE GREATEST FRAUD PERPETUATED BY PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO REPRESENT JESUS CHRIST,HERE ON EARTH. NO OTHER CHRISTIAN CHURCH CLAIMS THIS HIDEOUS LIE OF THE DEVIL.
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Gabe Azzaro 07/14/2010 9:58:00 PM
Of course John Doe was sexually molested by this priest, and of course the archdiocese is responsible. We all know that sexual predators do not molest once, but many times with many victims. The archdiocese knew about this priest and knew about his proclivities. John Doe was most probably not the first, nor the last to be abused by him. It is sad that the men who are ordained to protect their flock care about nothing but their coffers. I hope the archdiocesan lawyer and the archbishop remember that they will come fact-to-face with their Maker someday, and although God is merciful, God is also just.
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TIm RHyne 07/14/2010 8:27:00 PM
The dead priestl was the one who committed the crime,and is responsible. He escaped worldly judgement, and now faces eternal judgement.
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Tim Fischer 07/14/2010 7:25:00 AM
I write this with tears in my eyes too because I am a fellow survivor of abuse. Not from Fr. Cooper but from Fr. Norman H. Christian. I have felt what exactly what John Doe is going through. I too was a John Doe for a long time. I want him to know that I and a great many others believe him.