By Lindsay Toler
By Ray Downs
By Lindsay Toler
By Bill Conroy
By Lindsay Toler
By Lindsay Toler
By Lindsay Toler
By Jessica Lussenhop
FEATURE, JUNE 9, 2011
It happened twice: This article gave me chills — and then made me mad as hell ["Knockout King," John H. Tucker]! People need to take this problem seriously. I've been telling folks for years: Watch where you walk alone, and watch out for groups of young, ignorant, thugged-out teenagers.
The first incident happened to me in 2001, as a group of kids were getting off a bus near one of the major hospitals in town. I felt someone grab my backpack and pull me into a blow to the base of the skull so severe that even today I have chronic muscle spasms and neck pain. What's amazing is that the police asked me to sign paperwork saying I wouldn't hold the assailant responsible for any medical bills — not that he could have covered them anyway. The kid got a charge of misdemeanor assault. It should have been aggravated assault and battery.
Fast forward a few years to 2004, and I'm walking along South Grand. It's 5 p.m., and the sun is still shining. Three kids meet me walking down the sidewalk, and one of them sucker punches me in the mouth as they pass. That incident left me with a chipped tooth and a whole lot of unrequited anger. When incidents like this happen to you, you have little sympathy for the plight of the poor, "disadvantaged" youth who visit violence and hate on unsuspecting and undeserving people.
In St. Louis, I tell people that, to walk around undisturbed, you have to take an aggressive stance and put your "character armor" on. Sometimes, when I'm with my family, I have a hard time dropping that armor and just relaxing. In crowded places, even at the zoo, I feel I have to remain vigilant, on guard, ready to defend myself. After all, it's happened twice to me already.
Jeremy Ivy, St. Louis
A violent trend: This might explain why I was jumped in the summer of 2000. I was walking up Arsenal toward Streetside Records on Grand when three black kids hanging out on a stoop approached me from behind and clocked me in the head. I didn't bother to fight back but rather curled up in a ball while they continued to rain blows on me until they got bored. My jaw didn't work right for a few days, and it kind of screwed with my cognitive abilities.
I was still living at home, so my mom called the cops (against my wishes, because I knew what they would say). Sure enough, I told the pigs that it had been three black kids on Arsenal, and they replied, "Oh, we know who that was." No, they didn't. Don't engage in profiling on my behalf.
I've lived in south city my entire life and continue to defend it in spite of what happened to me, which I had assumed was an isolated incident. The fact that it may have been part of a trend pisses me off.
Quit fulfilling the stereotype! It's hard enough for black St. Louisans to combat the entrenched racism of this community without these stupid kids exacerbating things.
Joy Grenade, via the Internet
Reason to flee: I'm also a victim — I just didn't report my incident to the police because I was afraid of reprisals. I was new in the neighborhood and white, and therefore a target.
It was in the Dutchtown South neighborhood, right at Spring and Bingham. Three black thugs at about 10:30 p.m. punched me in the head and, as as soon as I was on the ground, told me to get up and then punched me again. I had blood coming out of my left ear. My glasses were crushed.
Later, I got my landlord to transfer me to another property in the county. No fuckin' way I'll ever live in the city again. (And people wonder why there's racism here. No brainer, if you ask me.)
Matt Irwin, Maplewood
King of cowards: Assaulting an unsuspecting person, especially someone who's elderly or challenged, is an act of cowardice, plain and simple. It proves nothing other than what a spineless coward you are. Meet someone on equal ground, face to face in a real fight (without weapons or the element of surprise) to see how bad-ass you think you are. Until then, "Knockout King" is an empty, meaningless title fit for cowards.
TinkertheThinker, via the Internet
If a white human being even says nigger to one of these useless animals it is definately a hate crime....with severe repercussion. If said useless animals ambush and beat the white human being it is barely a crime...certainly not a hate crime. Productive "people" ? They are not. They cannot be reasoned with. I don't care about slavery and all the injustices they cling to. I had nothing to do with it. In light of that...I would sudgest a heavy caliber handgun and blow the animals little bit of brains out of his thick skull. Come swing on me motherfucker. Have a nice day
This was almost me a couple of months ago at Chippewa/Kingshighway, but I was prepared. If you could have seen their Eyes when I attempted to give them what i had in my pocket ! The four of them could have been on the school track team! Oh yeah they're probably to damn stupid to still be attending school. I quess some bleeding heart people would have said I was wrong, but at least I would have been on the giving at not the receiving end!! So goes the saying "Justice Served"!!
So I got sucker punched by a gang of 8 or 10 13 year old kids at The City Museum on a pleasant summer evening. Crowded night. Lots of people around. I didn't go down and they chased me back into the compound. I thought for a minute of throwing some of my own punches and then thought how I would likely be in the hoosegow for dropping a ten year old. Maybe they were strapped as well?!?!? They get away with this kind of activity and seem to get a big laugh out of it. I realized afterward that they will likely do something similar or more serious that will land them in some kind of cell along the line. They will get their street cred and I will go happily on my way being wary of everyone around me. Fun game!
I am a retired police officer and I remember signing reports asd far back as 2005 reflecting this knockout king game
The senarios were all the same two (minimum) or three or more black teenagers swooping down on an unsuspecting white guy and then smaching him in the face as hard as they can.
They are real tough guys when they are in a pack but by themselves they are cowards.
Don't hear a word from the black politicians or the black clergy concerning this matter,however turn the tables and they all would want a federal investigation and calls of racism would abound. Where is the racism now.?
Don't see the black kids playing this game with older black people just whites. Wonder who is racist now?
REAL COWARDS!! Tell them to step up to the plate who is ready for them and see what happens!! Momma gets to go down and cry while identifying their little boy who didn't get to become a real man!!
A group of grandkids was listening to granny tell them the story about times she lived in Hayti, MO. She told them the story about how her father was a sharecropper and worked the land for for Mr...... At the end of the season, the harvest was sold so he went to square up with Mr....... He told her father there was no money to share and laughed as he walked away. Her father was angry as would be expected. Mr......told him he better stay in his place or else.Later that night Mr.....showed up at their door with some of his drunken frat brothers in full regalia. They drug her father out and strung him up!!!!! Of course the cops were called but couldn't figure out what happened. The kids were pissed and exacted revenge on the first person they saw....Y'all got fuzzy histories and memories.
Problem is we need to bring back corpal punishment , a good switchin will straiten up kids real quick. Plus you got look at what they have as roll models a bunch of wantabe street gansters. LIberals say it cruel to whip a child but back in the days when parents were able to switch your butt real good you thought twice about what you planned on doing , plus it taught you respect of othersand peoples property because you knew the penalty ( butt hurt so bad that you won't sit for days), get your mind right ..
Look into Aikido for training on not getting grabbed, hit or taken down. Located in Maplewood we train everyday on how to manage three attackers at Three Rivers Dojo. There's weapons training and this Sunday is the monthly knife fighting seminar, $15.
I couldn't agree with you more it everyone would quit being scared those type of people lose power. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hate when People try to look down on african American st.Louis teenagers. im one myself. the reason they do these violent things is because ,thats what they were tought it growing up in theses streets. IT ISNT ONLY BLACKS WHO ARE DOING THIS. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS SO FUCKKKEDD UP. WHILE IN HIGHSCHOOL THEY TEACH YOU 8TH GRADE MATH 8THGRADE SCIENCE AND SHIT.! AND IF YOU DONT GRADUATE YOU TURN TO ACTS OF VIOLENCE,...U CANT GET A JOB SO DO HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO SURVIVE... THE GOVERNMENT DOESENT GIVE A FCK ABOUT THE PUBLIC.
These guys pick their victims well. They either make sure the victim is out numbered or pick someone who can't fight back. We had a case not long ago where an 80+ year old man was riding his bike minding his own business. A young punk slugs the old man in the face, knocking him out... and off his bike. The sad part is that these young punks survive to do it again... and again... and again...
I would beat that Azzzzz. African Americans are being blamed from this phenomenom but other races attack people also. @sick and tired, I won't comment on your racist rant. If one of these thugs attacked me, life would change, for THEM. I would not stop kicking that Azz until they stopped moving or called the popo. This is insane.
.... white.... black... yellow or red...anyone approaches me in a threaten manner i'll take it as a life threat and a robbery..... BOOM bullet to the head! case closed! and its legal to!!!! Thugs beware!
"Blacks" are more racist than the average white american, why is that? They have been taught to see their skin color as a disadvantage from their own parent(s), teachers, role models and therefore fulfill the stereotype. The best thing society can do is to stop the aid and the "kid glove" handling of blacks. In St.Louis City the school district failed under Black Administration, was it racial? No it was plain & simple greed. Although the black teachers & parents are determined to drive out any white teacher from any city school? Why? Because they are racist plain & simple. Crimes against people of color aka "hate crimes" can only be perpetrated by white people. Crime racially motivated against whites is simply "crime". But yet since most black perpetrators are committing crimes on people of their race I guess they are just for criminally oriented as a race...right? Because now the City Schools have failed them, their parent(s) have failed them and they aren't "given" what they want, they just take it no matter how they have to obtain it. No sense of work ethic is infused into these kids and many grow up to be people who are destined to be burdens. Personally a little tired of my tax money being used to feed more black kids that will grow up to populate the prison system. So what is the greater crime against black people...making them get off their collective asses to find jobs, giving them a "protestant" work ethic or just keep doling out free money? Seriously I don't feel bad telling anyone of any race who asks me for money "no". I refuse to support those in need any more than I already am, the government takes & takes to give to these people. Yet I am called a racist because I want people to help themselves. I have to find my own way through life, paying my own way and working to do so. My family depends on me & my income, but then again so does the government, the tired & poor. I don't mind paying for retirees that have earned it. But i am tired of my tax money being spent on the lazy & inconsiderate people who (1) are in this country illegally, (2) people who have babies for income (3) undeserving people who refuse to work. If blacks have anything to complain about it should be the last couple of generations building up the distrust from other races. There are reasons why blacks aren't trusted as a whole. You got about 1/2 the barrel full of rotten apples.
OH a racist like its the worse thing on the planet, well I am one and I don't give a rats ass who knows, their is a world of difference between a black man and a nigger, and these punks are niggers and I stand by my word. Don"t care who likesw it who don't like it, whitey its time to fight back, go down where they are walk alone and bring a 45 caliber with you and blow their ucking brains out, do not depend on the police they work for the ass kissing politiicans and are told to be careful with these sacred lambs of Afro America, well mug me and I will kill you. Just the way it is.
So one story like this from 75 years ago justifies being a punk and a gangster? I guess I should go out and kill a bunch of germans since they gassed my great-grandfather. Learn from history don't be a prisoner of it. Be a man! A man 1) accepts responsibility 2) leads courageously with integrity 3)serves others 4) works toward a greater reward, God's reward. Good luck with livin in the past....
What the fuck are you talking about? You make up a story to explain why you hate white people?You could always go back to Africa, I heard there's not many whites there. But be forewarned, Africans taught the whites how to enslave.Your grammar and spelling sucks. Get an education you idiot.
Get an education ya FOOL. Look at you. Pants down past your ass. You have to hold your crotch to hold your pants up. Join the military, see the world, learn some discipline and contribute to society. If you want to mess with me on the street then smile and wait for the flash.
Not entirely sure how not graduating from a high school in which students have decided everything taught there is shit automaticallyforces one to turn to acts of violence, or how knocking old men off bicycles is necessary for survival.
This happens to far more blacks than whites. Blacks also screw up every school district they aren't a minority in. Have you ever considered that they teach 8th grade level courses in high school because the kids are too stupid to take higher level classes, Feel free to compare SLPS to Lindbergh, Oakville, Mehlville, Marquette, etc.. You'll see how dumb SLPS kids really are.Blacks are ruining this city, and are getting away with it by accusing everyone who points it out of racism.Your spelling and grammar reflects your low education.