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Thursday, June 20, 2013

Marilyn Manson Plays the Villain: The Uncut Edition

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"I just got to make a recording session. I'm working on new material for the new record. I don't even know if I have a desire to put records out in a traditional manner anymore. I want to combine my paintings, performance, and songs. So far I've worked on different stuff with Johnny Depp, I'm working with Mr. Oizo who is also Quentin Dupieux who directed the Wrong Cops movie that just came out at Cannes, which I should be at but I couldn't go to. And I worked with Gucci Mane and this guy, Kevin McCall (K-Mac), who produced a lot of Chris Brown songs. We cut a song last night called "Beautiful Disaster," kind of really heavy, hard, gangsta rap meets Prince. I'm meeting different people, trying different things, taking myself out of my normal element."

I felt like I was getting steamrolled by this dude, getting the "alright, press guy, here are all the answers to the same questions I've been answering all day" treatment. And who could blame him. But I didn't know quite how to react, being as how I don't know shit about the Wrong Cops movie, Gucci Mane, or Kevin McCall. I tried to steer the conversation back to something more personal, asking him about a statement he made that he decided to stop writing music to make people feel a certain way and started writing music just to make people feel.

"Well, before I think I fell into a pattern on Eat Me, Drink Me, where I was writing about how I felt. Maybe I couldn't tell anybody how I felt so I had to do it through music and a lot of people liked it because of that. I think the most important thing is to write something people are going to remember. Music is the soundtrack to your life. But I can step outside myself and listen to something I've done objectively, especially now that I'm working with people that I would've never dreamed of working with."

Excited about the new work he's doing, Manson elaborated, comparing some of the new material to sounding like the first Alice Cooper record or the industrial supergroup the Revolting Cocks, featuring members of Ministry and Front 242.

"It's not like me doing what people might expect - it's not like, metal rap or anything like that. It doesn't sound like anything I've done or anything I've ever heard. I'm making some very interesting stuff that people are going to be surprised by."

In my research, it seemed obvious that Marilyn Manson may have fully explored the concept of channeling his persona to reflect the perils and ugliness of modern American society. His latest records seem less concerned with society as a whole and more personal and introspective, an approach which is carrying into his new work.

"It's still personal but different. I guess it would be more like...I wouldn't say what my first record was like, but the state of mind that I was in. Maybe it's this whole Alice Cooper thing that is definitely triggering childhood memories. I surround myself with a very different crowd of people than I have usually, lately," he says with a change of tone.

"I almost got shot in a drive by last night. So that was fun. I don't think it was intended for...I just heard a lot of gunfire in the area that I was recording. Lets just put it that way. Heh."

After the casual mention of possible death, he mentions he's been recording at Johnny Depp's studio, at Kevin McCall's studio, and even on his iPhone. "I don't really give a shit if I've got an idea. I have the technology now for just spur of the moment stuff. It's not improvisational, like free-form jazz or some nonsense like that."

At this point in the conversation, I realize I'm lost in the world of Marilyn Manson. In the course of maybe three questions, I'm already overwhelmed with so many different things he's talking about that I'm more just listening to him talk.

"I have so many things in my head just stored there. I don't know where. But I'm in the mode now where if you throw me in a situation, that's why I like acting - and I've got a lot of acting stuff I'm going to be doing this year. And I resurrected my Phantasmagoria script and Roger Avary [Reservoir Dogs, Rules of Attraction, Killing Zoe] is going to direct it."

He shifts gears abruptly and compares his recent attitude to survival horror movies. "You deal with what you've got. You've got a pen and paper, make it happen. You've got a rap beat in front of you? Deal with it. And the other half of me is excited because I'm going on a tour and I'm going to play stuff that I haven't played in eight years, songs I know that people want to hear. And I'm playing songs that I want to play because I haven't heard them. I'm not trying to come up with something to outdo Alice Cooper - we're going to do something together. That'll be the most exciting part of the show."

See Also: Worn Villain: Marilyn Manson discusses life, love and what it's like to play the villain

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